Man Made Global Warming

[MadBlaster]

I agree too. If you put the elements of the periodic table into a jar of varying proportions and apply heat, light, absence of heat, light, you get matter transformation. The earth, a jar. Of course, a true-to-the-core atheist will claim to understand this. Yet, one can claim to be an atheist and at the same time engage in non-physical abstraction processes about the climate? Talk about a split. If you claim to be an atheist and claim to understand science, then logically, you really shouldn’t give a rats about climate change, because you understand that you are simply a bio-bag of chemicals interacting in a bigger jar of other chemicals and that your “life” is simply a change in velocity of various chemical processes in your local scope and “climate change” is manifestion of the change in the velocity of the chemical processes relative to the jar. Unless you are not really an atheist? Maybe instead, you are a vile, despicable scammer with another agenda? This is the likely reality imo and experience and why I pass judgement. That is, to conquer the non-physical elements of money, power, sex...etc during your carbon based “life” cycle. So, here come the indoctrination techniques from the marxist\communist\eco-facist\phd scammers en masse over decades as catalyst to transform certian non-physical elements of the jar to enhance their own life cycle. There really isn’t such thing as a real atheist. Anytime you hear non-suicidal person tell you he is an atheist, ask him to prove it by making high velocity matter transformation of himself. It’s not going to happen. But really, that is the only way you can tell if he is a true-to-the-core atheist. So, they don’t actually exist. It is simply another scammer doing his/her thing. Atheism, a scam, just as climate change is a scam, just as a “scam” is another non-physical element in the jar. So, how did they get in the jar? How do you get the scam out of the jar? You don’t unless you are willing to become a real true-to-core atheist and are willing to light yourself on fire right now, this second to prove it. Go get a match. Bye-bye. See, just a theory. However, maybe some non-physical “god” and/or “devil” put the non-physical elements in the jar and that is what keeps you from engaging in high velocity matter transformation? Yes, that is why there are the religions of the jar, in case you were wondering. Maybe now you understand why this debate in the non-physical realm will never end. It is good against evil, god verses the devil, ...etc. It’s the physical and non-phyical elements of the jar in reaction as long as heat/light is applied and removed relative to the jar. And what gives us heat and light??? The sun, baby. The egyptians, not so dumb. Funny, they didn’t choose a tree, a polar bear, or a glacier for a god. No, they were logical. Not like your modern day eco-facist or your al gore types who choose a religion of greed, or your marxist types who choose a religion of theft.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Deep... Just cos Im a swirling bag of chemicals doesnt mean I want to harm the enviroment or set myself on fire though...

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Anytime you hear non-suicidal person tell you he is an atheist, ask him to prove it by making high velocity matter transformation of himself. It’s not going to happen.

This just in, only way to be an atheist (ie. have no belief in God) is to commit suicide.

Wow.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Not like your modern day eco-facist or your al gore types who choose a religion of power & control, or your marxist types who choose a religion of power & control.

Fixed that for ya!

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

I agree too. If you put the elements of the periodic table into a jar of varying proportions and apply heat, light, absence of heat, light, you get matter transformation. The earth, a jar. Of course, a true-to-the-core atheist will claim to understand this. Yet, one can claim to be an atheist and at the same time engage in non-physical abstraction processes about the climate? Talk about a split. If you claim to be an atheist and claim to understand science, then logically, you really shouldn’t give a rats about climate change, because you understand that you are simply a bio-bag of chemicals interacting in a bigger jar of other chemicals and that your “life” is simply a change in velocity of various chemical processes in your local scope and “climate change” is manifestion of the change in the velocity of the chemical processes relative to the jar. Unless you are not really an atheist? Maybe instead, you are a vile, despicable scammer with another agenda? This is the likely reality imo and experience and why I pass judgement. That is, to conquer the non-physical elements of money, power, sex...etc during your carbon based “life” cycle. So, here come the indoctrination techniques from the marxist\communist\eco-facist\phd scammers en masse over decades as catalyst to transform certian non-physical elements of the jar to enhance their own life cycle. There really isn’t such thing as a real atheist. Anytime you hear non-suicidal person tell you he is an atheist, ask him to prove it by making high velocity matter transformation of himself. It’s not going to happen. But really, that is the only way you can tell if he is a true-to-the-core atheist. So, they don’t actually exist. It is simply another scammer doing his/her thing. Atheism, a scam, just as climate change is a scam, just as a “scam” is another non-physical element in the jar. So, how did they get in the jar? How do you get the scam out of the jar? You don’t unless you are willing to become a real true-to-core atheist and are willing to light yourself on fire right now, this second to prove it. Go get a match. Bye-bye. See, just a theory. However, maybe some non-physical “god” and/or “devil” put the non-physical elements in the jar and that is what keeps you from engaging in high velocity matter transformation? Yes, that is why there are the religions of the jar, in case you were wondering. Maybe now you understand why this debate in the non-physical realm will never end. It is good against evil, god verses the devil, ...etc. It’s the physical and non-phyical elements of the jar in reaction as long as heat/light is applied and removed relative to the jar. And what gives us heat and light??? The sun, baby. The egyptians, not so dumb. Funny, they didn’t choose a tree, a polar bear, or a glacier for a god. No, they were logical. Not like your modern day eco-facist or your al gore types who choose a religion of greed, or your marxist types who choose a religion of theft.

Phew, MadBlaster. Glad you put it this way. I'm convinced. I used to think increasing global warming was due to increasing gun control. Thanks for putting me in the picture on this. S!

[RedToo]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

I wouldn't argue that there is climate change. But what is said will happen will happen without any help from earths inhabitants. It will do what its going to do and there's nothing you can do. We can't prevent its eventual end no more than we can prevent a huge asteroid hitting earth.

Couldn't agree more.

RedToo.

[MD_Titus]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Doc

I wouldn't argue that there is climate change. But what is said will happen will happen without any help from earths inhabitants. It will do what its going to do and there's nothing you can do. We can't prevent its eventual end no more than we can prevent a huge asteroid hitting earth.

but it makes us feel better to think that we can be masters of our fate. simple as that really.


madblaster, how is atheism a scam?

is there an atheist organisation that asks for a tithe in return for a promise of...well, anything? the core of atheism, as i see it, is that the notions of good and evil lie entirely in the physical realm and control of man, not in any abstract entity such as god or the devil. don't try and make out that being god-less means you have no grasp of ethics. if anything it gives a greater appreciation of why you should do the right thing - because it's the right thing to do, not because you get an after-life reward.

[ATAG_Doc]

It's going to do what it do. And there isn't anything man can do to slow it down even a millisecond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4dhvm9ivGQ

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

but it makes us feel better to think that we can be masters of our fate. simple as that really.


madblaster, how is atheism a scam?

is there an atheist organisation that asks for a tithe in return for a promise of...well, anything? the core of atheism, as i see it, is that the notions of good and evil lie entirely in the physical realm and control of man, not in any abstract entity such as god or the devil. don't try and make out that being god-less means you have no grasp of ethics. if anything it gives a greater appreciation of why you should do the right thing - because it's the right thing to do, not because you get an after-life reward.

1) “is there an atheist organisation that asks for a tithe in return for a promise of...well, anything?”
There are all kinds of scams. Apparently, money for false promise is on your “A” list. What does that say about you? I take your view as no faith in the ordinary man because he is a sucker for organized religion. Maybe the scam of the so called “atheist organization” is to close your mind to order and open your mind to chaos and destruction? Gee, I wonder why they would want to do that?

2) “the core of atheism, as i see it, is that the notions of good and evil lie entirely in the physical realm and control of man, not in any abstract entity such as god or the devil.”
I would say god and devil are analogous to good and evil. You’ve heard the term “methphor”. I would say none of these lie in the control of man. For example, a free man makes a choice. He may percieve it to be good choice, while another man observing may percieve it to be a bad choice. This is how wars start. If one man kills the other man because of his choice, the man that lives gets to decide who is “right”. You know the cliches, “only the strong survive” as “evolution in a nutshell”. The inate ability to pass judgment on another is part of evolution of the species. So, your definition of aithest can not be correct. Man can not control good and evil. They must be in conflict in order for man to evolve. The question I have, why is the ability to pass judgement inate? How did that get in the jar? Do you see it in the DNA molecule? I don’t think so. It seems to exist in the non-physical realm. It seems to be an ability developed and changing over a life cycle.

3) “don't try and make out that being god-less means you have no grasp of ethics”
Again, how did your atheist acquire ethics? What is the context? He must have first developed an ability somehow to abstract/conceptualize the notions of good and evil in order to become ethical?

Jmho, I think your definition of atheist needs some work. I stand by my veiw that there is no such thing as a real atheist. It’s a sales pitch to a scam. See atheist -> karlmarx -> communist manifesto -> steal everything.

[WTE_Galway]

This has never been a debate about the science.

however there is probably also too much focus on the political and religious issues.

Yeah politicians in general, whether fascist or communist, liberal or conservative, are all total idiots and most organised religions are inherently evil and all about power (regardless if we are talking pre-reformation Catholicism, modern Islam, TV evangelists or right wing American fundamentalism).

However the efforts of the politico's and religious nutters of the world pale in comparison to the machieviallian manipulations of large corporations.

You only have to look at Northrop Grumman to see that.