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Old 06-11-2012, 05:29 AM
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I'll have to see what I can dig up. May tike a while (not much time ATM).
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:37 PM
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Had a few minutes to spare and I found that it were pretty much four bomb types used by Erprobungsgruppe 210: SC 250, SC 500, SD 250 and SD 500. AFAIR the ETCs weren't yet configured for carrying SC 50 bombs (and the wing racks on the Bf 110 were not yet installed, that came only in 1941) so that isn't exactly surprising.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:12 PM
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Thank you guys for your hard work and sharing your knowledge. The 110, not being a 109 or Spitfire, is seemingly relagated to secondary status and thus does not get the scrutiny like other more popular platforms. I am thankful you gentlement have pointed these shortcomings out. Of all the things this aircraft lacks or needs corrected I can not believe it has not been equipped with mgff/m yet.
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:07 PM
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I voted a while ago for the Bf110 bugs Klein, someone loves you

Yes we definatley need the SD2! How can the best anti grounded aircraft munition be left out of the battle of Britian!?
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:03 PM
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Hmm, from what I have read now the Rost 24 SD2 and the Einhangrost ER 4 ETC 50 for the BF 110 didn't showed up until march/april 1941.
So no SD 2 and SD 50 for Bf 110 in the Battle of Britain.

But it looks like the Bf 109 Fighter/bomber could carry SD 50 on a ETC 50 rack. Maybe also SD 2.
@csThor: can you confirm this through your documents of ErprGr 210?

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Old 06-11-2012, 09:16 PM
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I only know that SD2 were used during the BoB.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:46 PM
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Quick look through my sources tonight but cant remember where I saw it... A quick look through my aircraft manuals shows a 109 equipped with SD2 but not the model or year...

Pretty sure I saw something here about it but can spot it imeadiatly:

http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/631...weather-diary/

Ill keep looking tomorrow.



My farther, born in 1951 found a SD2 hanging in a tree near Sheffield... Derbyshire I think, proberbly near Dronfield, as they roamed quite far as kids in the woods... I will ask him about it but obviously this was well after the war...

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Old 06-12-2012, 11:53 AM
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Here you find some information concerning the influence of bomb loads on the performance values of full equipped BF110's:

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Old 06-12-2012, 05:10 PM
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I only know that SD2 were used during the BoB.
SD 2 butterfly bombs were also used in poland.
The question is were they or SD 50 carried/optional by Bf 109 in the BoB.

@csThor: Regarding the Bf 110 bomb load: I think the 2x SD 1000 is just the stated optional limit for the A/C structure. Like stating that you can carry max. 200kg of cargo + 5 persons in your car manual.

I also found a page of the manual which states the max load and load options for 3 different types of Bf 110 C fighter/bomber regarding their undercarriage.

I will post it here as soon as I find it again.

@Varrattu interesting find. What also is interesting is the mentioned 12:40 pitch. I have seen the same pitch mentioned by the D-series, but also by C-series? Will look into that later.

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Old 06-12-2012, 06:12 PM
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Found it.

bombload - breaking.jpg

First position [a] states normal C-1 to C-4 variants (without bombs and additional fuel tanks)
Second position [b] states variants with only strengthend main gear and not strengthend tailwheel.
Third position [c] states variants with strengthend main gear and strengthend tail wheel.

I think air resistance for propeller by standing A/C with 12:00 pitch is not modelled jet.
See 9. on the left page.
Will check it now.

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