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Old 12-20-2009, 07:10 PM
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Stop stroking your own "egos".

My ego's quiet happy with me stroking it...

But yes you're right about the 'fickle' game society, and aboslutely correct about the more stable, consistent, ego-stroking 'flyboys' - this is why we're here
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:00 PM
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It seem's that all who view this thread take the time to vote...some good men here, most polls don't fair well as to actual voting
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:33 AM
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You are delusional if you don't think that Mass Effect 2 and Starcraft II will be far better in quality than BoB.
That depends on what you mean by 'quality', doesn't it? Sure, they might LOOK better, but that's probably it. Starcraft particularly, what a hilariously overrated game. It's almost as overrated as World of Warcraft. Blizzard games are based around creating addiction, and Bioware like producing games where you're either the most evil person in the world or a saint, which is a gimmick that has become quite overused. I have to qualify that by mentioning that nevertheless I enjoyed Mass Effect, but I probably won't play it through again. Anyway, basically I find it especially amusing that you're using voice acting pedigree or the presence of Hollywood-style production values to decide on the 'quality' of a game, especially considering the steaming piles that were Oblivion and Assassin's Creed respectively.
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Old 12-21-2009, 01:23 AM
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You are delusional if you don't think that Mass Effect 2 and Starcraft II will be far better in quality than BoB. Both games have the backing of major games publishers with far more dollars, development staff, and technological advancements and developments than some minor independent Russian developer. We are talking about BioWare and Blizzard here. They both have more money and more experience than Maddox games will ever have.

When Martin Sheen starts doing voice work for SOW, you might be able to make such an argument as quality over quantity, but as the score stands now you can fully expect Mass Effect 2 and Starcraft II to win in both those categories.

You wanna support the minor flight sim genre? Go buy some. Voting on some online poll don't mean a thing.
Wow, great logic. More dollars plus hollywood voice actors = higher quality.
Comparing quality btw a RTS, a 3rd person shooter and a WWII flight sim is silly in itself too. No one is delusional voting for SOW. The track record of the developer delivering one of the greatest flight sims of all time is reason enough for SOW to be a voting option.

You also fail considering another sim that came out right after IL2 with far more money and resources completely failed to deliver a sim anywhere close to IL2's quality.

Also, the developers behind Starcraft II and Mass Effect 2 couldn't deliver a sim as good as the nearly 10 year old IL2 if they decided to develop one. They don't have the knowledge and resources needed to make an accurate WWII simulator.

They could make a WWII GAME, but not a simulator that could compete with the detail, accuracy, and realism that Maddox games will achieve. It's already proven by other developers trying to compete with far more money and resources and failing big time.
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:01 AM
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I'll probably play a few of the games on this list including ME2 and Deus Ex 3, but I don't think I've anticipated a game as much as SOW, waiting so long for this thing to be done.
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:47 AM
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Wake up, folks. You are in the smallest of minorities. No one has heard of this game. No one will ever hear of this game, but a very select few in the PC gaming market. SOW:BOB is being anticipated by no one. The sooner you can come to terms with that, the better.
Do you know what? Good. That's the way we like it. If we had to deal with hordes of the kind of idiots who buy World of Warcraft and its expansion packs on these forums, I'd probably stop reading them. How many sales does The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky have compared to Harry Potter? Your comparisons are pathetic. Guess what the best-selling item in PC and Video Games on Amazon UK is at the moment? Oh, wow, it's Wii Fit Plus with Balance Board! That must be an incredible game!
Anyway, why do you care? We're not 'patting ourselves on the back' for 'subverting' a poll. We're just supporting this game, demonstrating our appreciation. Maybe if it comes 3rd in the poll, a bunch of people will want to know what the hell this SoW:BoB thing is anyway, and who knows, perhaps a few of them will even buy it. Does that offend you so much?

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Old 12-21-2009, 08:12 AM
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Here is a link to the NPDs for 2008 for the top PC games sold in North American Region:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/945/945328p1.html

Here's the list:

1. World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Expansion Pack
2. Spore
3. World of Warcraft: Battle Chest
4. Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
5. Warhammer Online: Age Of Reckoning
6. Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
7. The Sims 2 Double Deluxe
8. World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Exp Pk Collector's Ed
9. Fallout 3
10. World Of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Expansion Pack
11. Call Of Duty: World At War
12. The Sims 2 FreeTime Expansion Pack
13. World Of Warcraft
14. Sins Of A Solar Empire
15. Warcraft III Battle Chest
16. The Sims 2 Apartment Life Expansion Pack
17. Crysis
18. Left 4 Dead
19. Diablo Battle Chest
20. The Orange Box

Do you see a flight sim on that list, or even a game with a plane in it? There are MMOs, RPGs, shooters. That's the games market. That's the PC games market in specific.

SOW:BOB occupies the tiniest of genres out there that absolutely no one cares about. That is why the only flight sims being made are now coming out of Russia and why Microsoft killed Flight Simulator and the studio that produced it.

Wake up, folks. You are in the smallest of minorities. No one has heard of this game. No one will ever hear of this game, but a very select few in the PC gaming market. SOW:BOB is being anticipated by no one. The sooner you can come to terms with that, the better.
gamespot.com for example lists IL-2 as THE top combat flightsim of all times...everybody intrested in planes knows IL-2

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?t...c&official=all

Its safe to assume that this generates some interest in Sow:BoB too...
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:48 AM
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When it comes to what money can do for a flightsim, I think the biggest impact has to be on marketing.
One should think that Microsoft had enough financial resources to create the best WWII flightsim ever, especially considering their experienced staff with a lot of flightsims behind them. But they didn't, and IL-2 is still considered to be the best WWII-sim.
If you walk into a gaming store, the IL-2 titles are almost not promoted, and allways in the bargain-bin. Not very surprising for a game this old, perhaps, but nevertheless strange, considering it's strong position within the combat flightsim community. But that community is, as it has been pointed out, quite small. And big companies like MS is probably not able to make money on it. A small company like Maddox Games are more likely to be able to earn a profit. And create a new benchmark simulator in the process.

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Old 12-21-2009, 11:33 AM
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Voted. SOW was on 3rd place..
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:56 PM
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