Friday 2011-01-28 Dev. update and Discussion

[major_setback]

For the record: an image with a lot of contrast and dark areas is not a HDR picture. The opposite is true, an HDR image shows details in all areas, with reduced contrast.

In photo: Several exposures can be combined into one, each exposed perfectly for certain parts of the photo, and themn merged so you see detail in sky (not overexposed) and shadow (usually dark).


Examples.

http://www.google.se/images?q=hdr&oe...w=1005&bih=648

Technique:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...amic-range.htm


Please stop saying the bottom photo of the two submitted earlier has a HDR.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by major_setback

For the record: an image with a lot of contrast and dark areas is not a HDR picture. The opposite is true, an HDR image shows details in all areas, with reduced contrast.

In photo: Several exposures can be combined into one, each exposed perfectly for certain parts of the photo, and themn merged so you see detail in sky (not overexposed) and shadow (usually dark).


Examples.

http://www.google.se/images?q=hdr&oe...w=1005&bih=648

Technique:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...amic-range.htm


Please stop saying the bottom photo of the two submitted earlier has a HDR.

You nailed it.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by major_setback

For the record: an image with a lot of contrast and dark areas is not a HDR picture. The opposite is true, an HDR image shows details in all areas, with reduced contrast.

In photo: Several exposures can be combined into one, each exposed perfectly for certain parts of the photo, and themn merged so you see detail in sky (not overexposed) and shadow (usually dark).


Examples.

http://www.google.se/images?q=hdr&oe...w=1005&bih=648

Technique:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tut...amic-range.htm


Please stop saying the bottom photo of the two submitted earlier has a HDR.

Never said that.
HDR mimics the way the eye perceives lighting and details. You obviously didnt put much time into thinking about it. For example if you are in a dark room and walk out the door into bright daylight, it temporarily blinds you (for atleast a few seconds). Your eyes adjust and you are then able to see details etc. This is the same mechanic as a camera's exposure, which is the length of time light is let into the lens/film etc. Same mechanic with the eye, except its not based on an "exposure time" but based on the quantity of light that enters through your pupil. I am not a photographer but I certainly have enough experience with film, so if you want to throw crap my way make sure you think it through.
@Roy: He didnt nail much, HDR in games is completely different than HDR in photography. Seriously, dont say he nailed it because it makes you look stupid, when was the last time you say a print or a picture emiting light? Not often, but a monitor does. In basic theory its the same "physical mechanic" which is based on light and the eyes perception of said light, in practice photography and graphics engines are very different in nature.

Also HDR is an effect that can be toned down if they want to, but eliminating it is silly.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

Never said that.
HDR mimics the way the eye perceives lighting and details. You obviously didnt put much time into thinking about it. For example if you are in a dark room and walk out the door into bright daylight, it temporarily blinds you (for atleast a few seconds). Your eyes adjust and you are then able to see details etc. This is the same mechanic as a camera's exposure, which is the length of time light is let into the lens/film etc. Same mechanic with the eye, except its not based on an "exposure time" but based on the quantity of light that enters through your pupil. I am not a photographer but I certainly have enough experience with film, so if you want to throw crap my way make sure you think it through.
@Roy: He didnt nail much, HDR in games is completely different than HDR in photography. Seriously, dont say he nailed it because it makes you look stupid, when was the last time you say a print or a picture emiting light? Not often, but a monitor does. In basic theory its the same "physical mechanic" which is based on light and the eyes perception of said light, in practice photography and graphics engines are very different in nature.

Also HDR is an effect that can be toned down if they want to, but eliminating it is silly.

Did I mention hdr IN A GAME??I look stupid??You need to calm down my friend.You got a right to defend your ideas but that is not the way.You do the same on every thread,who do you think looks stupid??I said he nailed the description of HDR I didnt say inside a game.I got a tip for you, whenever your angry start counting from 1-10 very slowly then reply. This forum is so full of whine.

[Cap'n Crunch]

Think I figured out why the babe is modeled as an extra in the cockpit. She's simply a test place holder for now, think "picking up your downed squad mate" in a real time rescue.

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by Cap'n Crunch

Think I figured out why the babe is modeled as an extra in the cockpit. She's simply a test place holder for now, think "picking up your downed squad mate" in a real time rescue.

That would actually be very cool having to land a plane in rough terrain, see a buddy come running out to get picked up and then trying to get up off a rough field or a narrow road with a little extra weight... Could make for some cool mission...

[SQB]

the whole "picking up a squadmate in your spitty" has been done in wings of prey, but with no animations. Was fairly cool.

[Nanuk]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me?

Im looking for the updated information on the upcoming IL2 CoD game because im a WW2 combat aircraft enthusiast who is very much looking forward to taking part in aircraft combat. Im hoping that this game will model aircraft combat well as my main interest is aircraft combat. I am correct in thinking this upcoming games' main feature will be aircraft combat?

3 Cheers for WW2 aircraft combat!

Did i mention that im excited about the aircraft combat?

It seems that somewhere along the line i clicked the wrong forums and ended up in either a botanist forum or a DIY photographer forum. Please redirect me to the forum where the other pilots/forum posters are excited about blowin' s**t up please.

Kind Regards,

A real IL2 Gamer.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by Nanuk

Please redirect me to the forum where the other pilots/forum posters are excited about blowin' s**t up please.

Welcome HERE!


This is the best place to get informations about that game... there is no dedicated 'Cliffs of Dover' game site yet, AFAIK.


EDIT: more precisely you want to go here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/forumdisplay.php?f=189

[robtek]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Welcome HERE!


This is the best place to get informations about that game... there is no dedicated 'Cliffs of Dover' game site yet, AFAIK........

And there, my dear Caspar, you are wrong, or not "up to date", i have to remark.

Look there: http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-o...ming-soon.aspx