Units Analysis

[player1]

Originally Posted by Xelian

Let's take for example dragons. They are very good units but at the time you get them for first time (Land of the Death) the enemy which have remained you to fight agains are mostly demons and dragons agains which the dragon fire damage isn't good. Also they are hard to maintain as they can't be resurrected.

That's why I like Emerald Dragons the most.
They do physical damage, not fire (and decent one, not like crappy bone dragons). Also, they have two special attacks with no retaliation (grab and mana drain), so less chance to get them killed.

[rayruan]

Originally Posted by Xelian

Good job. Though from my expirience tables with stats aren't the best way to show which unit is good and which is bad. It usually depends on the playins style of the person. I personally find Ancient Ents, Ogres and Giants very crappy cause of their slow speed. They are only usefull later when you start fighting dragons. There is a few units which are very tough to fight agains but they suck. Let's take for example dragons. They are very good units but at the time you get them for first time (Land of the Death) the enemy which have remained you to fight agains are mostly demons and dragons agains which the dragon fire damage isn't good. Also they are hard to maintain as they can't be resurrected. I personally prefer 3-4 level units as Fear work mirracles when you have large quantities of low level units. Also they are easier to ressurect.

I aggree, my work doesn't show which unit is best, but only show which unit is good at physical attack and defence. Best unit also depend on the stratige of player, unit abilitly and skills, char type and enemy to fight. My work only a reference for you. Please be noted again, this chart only consider physical damage and resist, but maigc attack and resist.

Thanks

[rayruan]

Originally Posted by Namel

One bug in table. Cyclops is actually ranged unit.

I just got them and love them. They have unlimited range and are very very tough. Of course their damage isn't that great but they also got nice melee skills to punish archdemons or dragons that get too close.

you are right, thanks

[Dorkus]

Not sure i'm understanding this chart. shouldn't the black dragon have a difference value of zero against itself?

[rayruan]

Originally Posted by Dorkus

Not sure i'm understanding this chart. shouldn't the black dragon have a difference value of zero against itself?

No, black dragon also make damage to black dragon. The damage chould not be zero

[Dorkus]

Originally Posted by rayruan

No, black dragon also make damage to black dragon, so the last column's value ("difference") should be zero. The damage chould not be zero

No I am saying that a black dragon does the same damage as itself (obviously). So it should take an equal number of strikes for it to kill or be killed by another black dragon.

Or does this table assume the designated unit strikes first?

Also, it doesn't seem that the table reflects no retaliation? This is in essence the same as the ork veteran's ability. You double the veteran's damage but don't adjust other units that have a no retal strike (snakes, vampires, etc)