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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-06-2011, 08:40 AM
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This, exactly this. I've been able to reproduce this, albeit more by accident, as I'm still learning...

I'm really amazed that those "guys who fly real aircraft with thousands of flight hours" don't get that.
But I don't worry there, 1C have their own flight testers. Some of these guys flew or fly the real thing(s), so I definately give more about them than about random internet "flight instructors".
So next bug classified as irrelevant on this forum... If it is caused by shaking or turbulence, why the whole cockpit is not shaking? If you fly in plane and you fly into turbulence it is not just minor shaking, it is like someone is hitting you from different sides, you hear the sounds as different part of plane hit to each other. I don't see anything like that in CoD... I only see that needles are jumping like mad? But what is physically causing these jumps? Turbulence within each instrument, which is not effecting the plane as whole?

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Old 04-06-2011, 09:26 AM
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Okay, maybe you have turned off the head bounce thingy, where it may be not as obvious, but:

I happen to be a physicist (for real, it's not just a random claim ) and the thing is that the engine has its resonance frequency just like anything else. So, if you have tuned your engine badly, it will be go into resonance, causing it to shake and vibrate. And, because the engine represents a large mass, it will shake up the entire airplane with it. This, in turn, includes cockpit instruments and, since the the instrument needles are allowed to move relative freely, inertia causes them to bounce as well.

Now this is less obvious in more modern cockpits, as advances have been made in mounting the engine(s) with dampening elements. The engines are designed to run more vibration-free, too and cockpit instruments, if not already digital, have also been improved, "decoupling" them from airframe vibrations in better ways. It's shouldn't be like 1940 anymore

I'm more and more amazed at the level of detail the developers introduced into CoD and it makes me sad that many of those details are, if not quite convenient, called "bugs" by some users. Don't get me wrong, there are bugs and there are quite a few, but CoD is NOT an arcade game and I really, really hope that Oleg, Luthier & co. stand by their philosophy in striving for realism - as this is the "perk" why the majority of players have fallen in love with the Il-2 line.

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Old 04-06-2011, 11:56 AM
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How about letting them fix the mixture control first before we jump to any conclusions.

Right now, even the auto-mixture on the 109 is causing problems at altitudes above ~3000 meters. It's only shake-free if you turn CEM off.

In comparison, it's not that bad at low altitudes when everything is set correctly using CEM. If however the problem still persists after the fix, we can start arguing it to death. (And the fanboys throw sh*t at R/L pilots because they point out obvious mistakes )
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:09 AM
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Was out for a pleasure ride in a Hurri the other night and all the guages were bouncing like crazy..to the point of being almost unreadable. I have 100's of hours in light twins (RL) and have never seen anything like it except in the Bermuda Triangle.
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:28 AM
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Was out for a pleasure ride in a Hurri the other night and all the guages were bouncing like crazy..to the point of being almost unreadable. I have 100's of hours in light twins (RL) and have never seen anything like it except in the Bermuda Triangle.
Why has no one picked up on this post? Assuming whipper isn't pulling our legs, he's experienced bouncing instruments for real in a WWII fighter. Maybe Maddox Games are spot on? Just a thought.
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