B-29 Tragedy.

[Treetop64]

I'm still at a loss as to how these guys came up with the idea that they should actually start it up and attempt to fly the aircraft. What an incredibly delusional and irresponsible thing to do.

[MaxGunz]

Originally Posted by major_setback

..such a disappointment, such a waste!!
Who let those idiots do that????

Money let them do that, just like every other big useless waste.

[Buster_Dee]

This righteous indignation gets old.

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[BG-09]

And the saddest part of all: when the Plexiglas round window flies away high above the ground is unbearable! Simply unbearable. Heart breaking... Total morons. And one of them said sitting in his lounge: "...It burned to the ground! " I...I...I do not know what to say!!! They have to be in to the jail. For very long time!

[Thunderbolt56]

I watched this a few years ago as well. The outcry around here for punishment is silly. Believe me, they were substantially punished both financially and emotionally.

I would have loved to see a veritable Disney happy ending with them flying into the blue back to civilization, but this bird wasn't visible or flying before any of this, so treating it as though it were a rare flyable that was enjoyed in air shows by thousands every year is ridiculous.

Personally, I'm glad there are people out there with the money and inclination to undertake such projects. Even if they succeed one in five times, that's one more bird in the fold.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt56

I watched this a few years ago as well. The outcry around here for punishment is silly. Believe me, they were substantially punished both financially and emotionally.

I would have loved to see a veritable Disney happy ending with them flying into the blue back to civilization, but this bird wasn't visible or flying before any of this, so treating it as though it were a rare flyable that was enjoyed in air shows by thousands every year is ridiculous.

Personally, I'm glad there are people out there with the money and inclination to undertake such projects. Even if they succeed one in five times, that's one more bird in the fold.

Sorry I don't agree. For the same reason ppl pay money to be put in of those cryostasis coffins.
Would go and just "have a try" if you can resurrect them even though are unsure you can make it?
NO!
See? Let the stuff were it is, it's not going to rot either, and one fine day, somebody who has the required resources available, will give it a try.

They obliviously did not have:

- enough money
- the right equipment
- basic ability of comprehensive reading
- leadership
- needed knowledge

only A LOT of dedication, but they overestimated their own capabilities even more.
Did you notice the tiny fire extinguishers?
They were not even prepared if one of the engines cached fire!

One more thing: I really tried hard, but their emotional pain didn't seem that deep... I would have freaked out so bad.

Personally, I don't need ppl like this, they generally damage more than they can save. No thx.

[JVM]

When I read all these irate comments made undoubtly from the safety of your computer seats, I would like to point out that:

- It was 15 years agon and really warbird interested people know about that since that time...I saw the original outing of the Nova episode: I do not remember venom-laced critics like the ones I just read, and yet there had been many critics at the time

- One of the big issues (as always) was money and extreme climatic constraints: it has been very hard to gather the funds...strangely, none of the critics of the time contributed...the one who did di d not critic (at least overtly)

- In case you did not notice the real painful point is less the unfortunate loss of the Kee Bird when everything seemed ready to go but a lot more Rick Krieger the chief engineer who overworked himself to death, literally...

- Rick was a long time friend of D. Greenamyer: don't you think he is still mourning his loss? DG hesitated for a long time and decided to try to honor his memory...one can only guess th eoutcome woul dhave been different if the chief engineer (who was the project leader) had been alive

- None of us was there, and we can only guess at the state of mind of the rest of the team...hindsight is so much of a marvelous thing, isn't it?

- D. Greenamyer was not really a coming out-of-the-blue moron: Lockheed SR-71 test pilot, held the fastest piston engine speed record for 2 years (over the Messerschmitt 209!), the fastest low altitude speed record (998 mph with a NF-104, 25m high...but was forced to land without the airplane), and won the National Air Races of Reno in "unlimited" category 6 times

Granted, humility and compassion are not very common virtues in this forum, but in this thread they are downright absent...

Who was talking about morons already?

JVM

PS: The engines and wings are there in perfect state for whoever will need them...under ice water in Northern Greenland they will be still in the same shape in 200 years...

[Trumper]

I wish the title could be amended,i thought something had happened to FiFi

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by JVM

- D. Greenamyer was not really a coming out-of-the-blue moron: Lockheed SR-71 test pilot, held the fastest piston engine speed record for 2 years (over the Messerschmitt 209!), the fastest low altitude speed record (998 mph with a NF-104, 25m high...but was forced to land without the airplane), and won the National Air Races of Reno in "unlimited" category 6 times

One can be a great pilot, but a lousy project manager.
The qualities of PILOT are not the same a BUSINESS SKILL.

I PERSONALLY met D. Greenamyer on another project that ended in fiery failure, and I can tell you he did not strike me as a good manager.

He bungled the B29 recovery, they should have been ready to come back the next year and not push it.