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Old 02-07-2010, 06:58 PM
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I doubt there is. Although gremlion has no fire resistance, heal + stone skin will hardly manage to save the reds from suffering major losses from the ever increasing number of enemies. Maybe with 2x Slippery Cuirass + Twinkling boots (+35% physical resistance) and a number of magic resistance items, the damage he'll take is simply way too big.

You can try slapping a flaming eyes scroll on, but I doubt that will help a lot, because if the fairies start hacking at the dragons, they won't be able to retaliate (and that will happen eventually), and that is extremely inconvenient.
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:10 AM
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The problem is that eventually you reach a spot where you have to cast a heal + stone skin at the same turn. And even with higher magic that only lasts so long.

And Im at the point where I cant get more kills for Moro Dark so I cant get the shard. (40% to go).

Meh, seem I have to try with bone dragons then as I still want to do it with only 1 unit slot.

Time to search up some bone dragon strategy then!
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:02 PM
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I beat Zilgadis with 11 Green Dragons and 12 Red dragons. If you have the reds, I'm sure you have the greens. (paladin, Impossible, no losses).

However, I had very high physical resist (see famine to feast thread)... and another secret weapon: Zilgadis' first three towers were all evil gremlins. I just let them live because all they could cast on my two stacks was weaken.

I would keep both stacks stone skinned, and use level 1 life light to heal them both at once when it came time to.

You may try to do something similar. Instead of focusing on Ziggy right off, take out any friendly gremlin towers before they can spawn troops, and leaving evil ones. Once he has only evils, go for him. Use plenty of magic resistance and mana spring.

Edit: Sorry, just realized this was for a SINGLE stack. Yeah, you can still do this, but it will be harder without being a mage. The trick will be in not engaging him at melee for as long as possible while you keep his friendly towers dead. I hope you have 95% magic resistance (easy with the gift bag) if you don't.. yeah probably can't be done .
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Old 02-09-2010, 12:15 AM
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Even if Zilgadis can be beaten, the battle with Baal remains. So far the only single stack of lvl 5 units that can beat him is the Bone Dragons, as you had proven. Red and Black dragons won't even dent his health... Greens can hit him, but they are inefficient. Bone Dragons are the best for this battle because their damage is poison, and every enemy on that arena has 0% resistance to it.

EDIT: Hmmm, maybe the Trolls can deal with this boss as well. However, one will need to wait till it's evening, so that they can regenerate properly. All that's left is some physical protection items (the more, the better), stone skin and magic spring. If the regen is better than the damage the troll takes in a turn, everything is perfect.
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:34 AM
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I beat Zilgadis with 11 Green Dragons and 12 Red dragons. If you have the reds, I'm sure you have the greens. (paladin, Impossible, no losses).

However, I had very high physical resist (see famine to feast thread)... and another secret weapon: Zilgadis' first three towers were all evil gremlins. I just let them live because all they could cast on my two stacks was weaken.

I would keep both stacks stone skinned, and use level 1 life light to heal them both at once when it came time to.

You may try to do something similar. Instead of focusing on Ziggy right off, take out any friendly gremlin towers before they can spawn troops, and leaving evil ones. Once he has only evils, go for him. Use plenty of magic resistance and mana spring.

Edit: Sorry, just realized this was for a SINGLE stack. Yeah, you can still do this, but it will be harder without being a mage. The trick will be in not engaging him at melee for as long as possible while you keep his friendly towers dead. I hope you have 95% magic resistance (easy with the gift bag) if you don't.. yeah probably can't be done .
Thats actually brilliant as I do have access to greens (blacks and bone aswell)

Im 10 fights or so from beating the game now so Ill probably start over with bone dragons. And Im REALLY looking forward to it. Ill be looking at 6-7 days and no loss on this game which is fairly ok. I did waste some time by doing some quests out of my way, but all in all it has been my best game so far in AP .

A lone red dragon army makes for some AMAZING chain pulling of everything that you see on the map as you can end every game with full mana and full rage.

Obviously I used the egg trick on a couple of colossus scrolls and I would scout ahead sometimes and then reload, but other then that It has been a good run when it came to spells and artifacts.

Cheers for the good pointers everyone!
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