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Old 12-30-2009, 10:41 AM
loreangelicus loreangelicus is offline
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I haven't played enough KBAP to use the Royal Griffins, but are they really that good as compared to Emerald Green Dragons?

In KBTL I abused the hell out of Emerald Green Dragons + Phantom. The original EGD stack also did minimal fighting (except for some hit-and-run tactics with its two no-retaliation abilities), but the Phantom-ed stack fearlessly jumps into the middle of the enemy ranks and lets loose its mana blast, essentially getting back the 25 mana spent to cast them; in short, free Phantoms. Then just keep on casting Phantom every turn since you sometimes even end up with more mana...

Inquisitors and Time Back are still in KBAP, so EGDs being level 5 is still not that big of an issue.
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Old 12-30-2009, 05:44 PM
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Well, green dragons are much better for tanking, even in phantom form. Royal Griffs however dish out the damage like little else. Their attack and damage are both quite high, and infinite retaliation helps out well.

Time back is cheaper to cast on them, so it is an option if you want it. Cast phantom first turn, time back turn 2, and get really aggressive with 'em!
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:53 PM
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Two questions about Royal Griffins:

1) Where do you buy them? Demenion's castle?
2) Does the Griffin banner work on royals?
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Old 01-31-2010, 04:16 PM
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1) You buy them wherever you find them Chances are they'll be spawning on Verona, but I have also encountered them on Scarlet, Bolo, Rusty, Tekron, Montero and once on Elon.
2) Yes, absolutely.
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:14 PM
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Uhh Don'y forget the Portrait for even more boosting.

I prefer the red dragon in most lineups to do the same job as the birdies.. That is, if you have either Time Back or Inquisitors.

I do carry royal Griffins in the reserve stack though to pull out when I'm fighting Demons or dragons. And I guess they work well in a group with even more humans than the usual Paladin/inquisitors
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Old 02-01-2010, 07:27 PM
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You can use Reds against demons, just cast Oil Mist first. Not only is it -1 morale to the entire area, but it will also about double the damage from fire they take.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:00 AM
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Hm.
I'm in a warrior game, and I think there are tons of spells I want to cast first round already. Adding another is just annoying so I swapped the Reds on Settera.
Mass Haste, Phantom, Awaken dragon, stone skin, Target amongst others

I didn't know about the Morale thingy though. Are demons scared of all dragons?
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:26 AM
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Each debuff decreases the unit morale by one during fight.
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:23 AM
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hehe

I never Noticed.

However Settera is kinda easy already, if you clear it as the 2nd to last island, but obviously debuffing is the way to go with a mage.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:15 AM
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I also found Phantoming Royal Griffins to be very powerful. Very nice how the Heavenly Guards the RG's summon are permanent. Casting Phantom on the RG's EVERY round the field can get flooded full of ruthless griffin forces very quickly. It's almost too powerful, especially with 100 RG's.

I was lucky to find RG's early on at the same time I found the Griffin Kings Portrait Artifact (+5 def. +2 griffin morale) AND the Griffin's Banner Regalia (+5 attack of griffins, -20% leadership of griffins). Super powerful combo. The location find for that setup was so ideal I got the feeling maybe some things aren't so random.

For a while I thought the +5 def. of the Griffin Kings Portrait applied only to griffins, it was a nice surprise to find it applies to ALL units.

Also, RG's are top of the line for taking down Gremlin Towers often in 1 hit. RG's have 50% magic resistance, Royal Guards have 25% magic resistance, so even if they get a retaliation from Evil Gremlins they don't receive much harm.

Of course nothing kills a dragon so well as RG's.

My first play through I didn't find them until I got to Elon, that smarmy trader guy hanging out on the bridges in the middle of the island had them, thus not accessible until late game.
Two other play through's RG's were found in an identical setup at the Barbarian camp in Verona (with Royal Thorns across the way, and all the same other units for sale both times, so I think it's a common setup).
It's right on the shore of that little island on the West side of Verona. So if they are there they can be acquired as soon as you find a Verona map with no fighting to get to them. Just beware the enemy unit that patrols that area.
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