thoughts on the console iteration of IL2 sturmovik from a fan

[H Lecter]

I was also surprised how easily I found the ground targets. I think the draw distance was slightly increased compared to the demo but I could be wrong.

However, finding them in the streets of Berlin or those bunkers in the Ardennes (single mission) is still close to impossible. Had to fly these missions on realistic mode first to know where they were actually hidden.

I second the cockpits for the 109's and 190's - absolutely essential. If there was a DLC offering all missing cockpits I'd be crazy enough to pay up to 20 Euros for it. I love the German jetfighters and having no cockpit view (and most likely never a DLC to fix it frankly speaking) sucks.

I still cannot believe what I hear about the kill system (couldn't find games). If you damage a plane badly enough that its pilot can't keep it airborne you have to get the kill.

[Kartman013]

Originally Posted by H Lecter

I second the cockpits for the 109's and 190's - absolutely essential. If there was a DLC offering all missing cockpits I'd be crazy enough to pay up to 20 Euros for it. I love the German jetfighters and having no cockpit view (and most likely never a DLC to fix it frankly speaking) sucks.
have to get the kill.

Don't say that paying for cockpits - don't even put the idea into their heads!

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by Kartman013

Don't say that paying for cockpits - don't even put the idea into their heads!

Money talks and you'd pay it too

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by Kartman013

Don't say that paying for cockpits - don't even put the idea into their heads!

i want them to make as much money on this game as possible.

the more successful the "sim" buiseness becomes , the better games will become

[Kartman013]

I want them to succeed in droves, I want this game to be the bench mark for all other console flight sims to set their standards to. But I also want them to - do the right thing - I good developer should offer essential updates for free and only offer 'pay-for' DLC in the guise of missions coupled with new planes etc.

I have mixed feelings about DLC. I believe in value for money and very few titles offer DLC that is truly valuable. I also believe in games developers doing well and succeeding, but when I see the likes of EA offering stuff that was left out of games on purpose JUST SO THE DIE-HARDS WOULD PAY FOR IT AS DLC, sickens me!

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Kartman013

...but when I see the likes of EA offering stuff that was left out of games on purpose JUST SO THE DIE-HARDS WOULD PAY FOR IT AS DLC, sickens me!

It's not EA, but Rise of Flight comes to mind...

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by Kartman013

I believe in value for money and very few titles offer DLC that is truly valuable.

The games I enjoy the most usually had good DLC as well. The car packs in Forza 2 were worth every cent. Certain games stick out from the crowd - IL2 BoP being one of them, so I suppose we get our money's worth in October.

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by Kartman013

but when I see the likes of EA offering stuff that was left out of games on purpose JUST SO THE DIE-HARDS WOULD PAY FOR IT AS DLC, sickens me!

only they didnt leave the cockpits out of the game , in fact the german planes all together were going to be cut from the game.

But then they realized what a huge **** up it would be to ship an IL2 game with only allied planes so they put the german planes in the game too.

and they didnt have the resources to add in cockpits for every single one of them.

so now the game is shipped and they now have to pay the employees who are working on making those cockpits for the BF109 and FW190 available to us through DLC.

If they have to charge for it , they will charge for it , and if there is still a online community there i will buy it for any price.