Censorship and what to buy: 1C/Anton please help!!!

[Widar]

Originally Posted by H Lecter

Just order the UK version. It's a safe bet for getting a game that is as uncensored as can be and usually it's out earlier. Furthermore I don't think there is a Benelux version, it should be the one that Anton referred to as the 'EU' version in one of his posts and that's the one that Germany gets.

I really cannot see how mentioning Hitler in a historically accurate context can be against the law (even in Germany), but I gave up trying to understand it...

I am definitely not buying the FRG version. Who knows what else 1C was forced to censor in the FRG? I am glad that 1C left "the name" blank, to let the people know that something is being censored instead of making a special FRG version to accomodate the FRG censors in which the FRG censorship would have remained hidden.

To answer your question, the FRG censors actually do not really follow the law at all. I read the legal paragraph on which the FRG censors base their censoring and a prohibition of mentioning that or any other name is not actually in the constitution of the FRG. What they use for censoring is a legal paragraph that they bend and twist in any way they want to, so that in effect the FRG censors can censor whatever they feel like actually.

So now I am going to exercise some patience and wait for about two weeks until I can enjoy a clean healthy non-FRG version of IL-2 BOP. I just hope that they NEVER implement instant in-game content blocking via the Xbox 360 country code or IP addressess.

Hopefully the upcoming IL-2:BOP DLC (incl. German aircraft cockpits) will not be censored in the FRG as well, like for instance the GOW and COD5:WAW DLC's. But there is a way around that also, next time I'm abroad I just download all "forbidden" DLC's. It still is a major nuisance though.

Interestingly the (large) retailers I spoke to about all this said that game sales in the FRG are really being hurt by this FRG censorship because Germans now just buy the FRG-censored games abroad or via the internet. The best answer game developers could probably give to FRG censors would be to just stop releasing censored games in the FRG at all and let the people buy non-FRG censored games abroad or via the internet.

Anyway, I really look forward to playing IL-2 BOP when the time comes! Ahhh, the virtues of patience...

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by Widar

So now I am going to exercise some patience and wait for about two weeks until I can enjoy a clean healthy non-FRG version of IL-2 BOP.

Just order it at Amazon.co.uk. It's on stock and will ship the same day. It's the FRG/EU version that is delayed.

[Widar]

Originally Posted by H Lecter

Just order it at Amazon.co.uk. It's on stock and will ship the same day. It's the FRG/EU version that is delayed.

Will do!

[rufuzmitchell]

So,there's a version in wich Hitler's name is faded out,and one where it is mentioned?
I got the game,but i don't know wich version it is. The text on the back is only in english,but it mentions eu.playstation.com. It also says the game will quickstart in (illustrated with flags): english (there's two union jack's???) and then i think finnish,swedish,norwegian and portuguese.
These are also the languages featuring in the manual...

any way of knowing wich version i have?

[H Lecter]

Originally Posted by rufuzmitchell

So,there's a version in wich Hitler's name is faded out,and one where it is mentioned?
I got the game,but i don't know wich version it is. The text on the back is only in english,but it mentions eu.playstation.com. It also says the game will quickstart in (illustrated with flags): english (there's two union jack's???) and then i think finnish,swedish,norwegian and portuguese.
These are also the languages featuring in the manual...

any way of knowing wich version i have?

That's the UK version that I have as well. You may stop worrying now

[Headset]

I,ve got the German Version (USK) of the game. I can confirm that in the German (USK)-version the name of Hitler is faded out. But this is the only thing. On the same DVD is also the English "uncut" Version.You only must set your Systemlanguage to English. I can only say that for the PS3 version of the game.

[rufuzmitchell]

Originally Posted by H Lecter

That's the UK version that I have as well. You may stop worrying now

Many Thanks! Although if the only omission is Hitlers name,i wouldn't mind at all in the first place,sure it's kind of strange to ban the most important historical figure of WW2 in a WW2 game..but that's an entirely different matter ofcourse....