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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

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Old 08-27-2009, 09:17 PM
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I am flying a vintage glider. Me and my family owned a german Göevier (we sold it) and now we are restoring a French Carmam 200.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:03 PM
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Heh heh, this reminds me of one my favorite jokes.

Q. "How can you tell if there's a pilot with you in a elevator?"

A: "He'll tell you."

To answer your question, though; I am a certificated flight instructor and am actively instructing. If you have any questions I'll be happy to help out, though some around here would probably get tired of my long posts if I keep it up for too much longer .

At any rate, from what I've seen so far, I am very impressed with the physics of the game. The developers added some very nice touches (some of which you will only notice on sim mode), such as the left turning tendency of the airplane (made more pronounced at low speeds, high angle of attacks, with high power settings, just like in real life).

It may not make you a perfect flyer, but there are plenty of real life physics being represented in this game.

And yes, you do need to trim that much in real life!

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Old 08-27-2009, 11:07 PM
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I'm sitting on 3000 or so hours. The planes in the game handle very accurately and like the guy before me said, yes you do need that much trim and you need it all the time. Otherwise, you would be fighting the controls constantly. This game has the physics down. When I start a landing in the game I usually throw it into a slip, works exactly the way it's supposed to.
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:56 PM
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got to fly a beechcraft bonanza for an hour or so once, we were already airborne when he flipped the control wheel over to my side and that was after he asked me if i wanted to fly and i said "NO", yeah i was 15 at the time and the first time i had ever been up in a plane, needless to say it was awsome after i settled in a little bit ( IE holding the contols frozen in a slight climbing to the right) he told me to put the nose down a little bit so i pushed the stick/wheel down about a half inch and my stomach just about came out of my mouth. after i realized only gradual pressure on the controls was needed it truly was awsome , at least for me all i had to do was pretty much follow a highway, probaly barely turned and he was working the rudder so it really wasnt all me flying but it was still a great memory and i still hope one day to take some real lessons.

and oh yeah love the demo, cant wait to meet yall in the game and learn a few things, deffinately going to play this game in at least realistic untill i learn enought to play on sim mode, ive never played a real flight sim but being a 360 owner have to say im tired of arcade flight.

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Old 08-28-2009, 12:25 AM
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I have my Private license, just topped the 100 hr mark. I am also within a few weeks of obtaining my Instrument Rating.
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Old 08-28-2009, 02:57 AM
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I have my Private license, just topped the 100 hr mark. I am also within a few weeks of obtaining my Instrument Rating.
I feel for you there. IFR is the ultimate Jedi mind-screw training wise. The positive side is that the checkride is a little more lenient since the DPE already trusts your judgement. Just watch the new changes to void times, that just changed 8-1. They need some night/IFR type missions in BoP. Make us navigate to the target on instruments, then give us a narrow opening in a broken ceiling to bomb the target. Asking too much? Probably.I think this is the first console game where I have seen all of us with an actual pilots license (only the FAA calls it a certificate), come out in droves. Has anyone paid attention enough to the Spitfire cockpit to know if the Turn Slip Indicator is working and accurate?
It's a shame they couldn't bend the historical rules a little and give us a PAPI, that would be a lot of fun to mess around with. They should at least make you use a VOR on simulator or realistic, they were invented at the time. If we can't get an IFR mission, give us a mission where you have to track on the VOR to your target. Once again, that is not asking too much for such a great game with such a realistic representation of flight.
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:15 AM
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I feel for you there. IFR is the ultimate Jedi mind-screw training wise. The positive side is that the checkride is a little more lenient since the DPE already trusts your judgement. Just watch the new changes to void times, that just changed 8-1. They need some night/IFR type missions in BoP. Make us navigate to the target on instruments, then give us a narrow opening in a broken ceiling to bomb the target. Asking too much? Probably.I think this is the first console game where I have seen all of us with an actual pilots license (only the FAA calls it a certificate), come out in droves. Has anyone paid attention enough to the Spitfire cockpit to know if the Turn Slip Indicator is working and accurate?
It's a shame they couldn't bend the historical rules a little and give us a PAPI, that would be a lot of fun to mess around with. They should at least make you use a VOR on simulator or realistic, they were invented at the time. If we can't get an IFR mission, give us a mission where you have to track on the VOR to your target. Once again, that is not asking too much for such a great game with such a realistic representation of flight.
Haha IFR training is so different, my flight examiner who is based at the airport KMGY is about 83 years old and can fly like those red bull air race guys. He told me that "Instrument training is an Unnatural Act that is only punishable by god" What that means? i dunno. I just did some NDB appchs and some GPS appchs today. I would LOVE a VASI or PAPI. VOR navigation, REAL dead reckoning. Get some transponder and TCAS action. How about ATC comms, DME arcs, Holds, LASHO, Missed appchs procedues, Circle to land, sidestep.....as i have lost about 80% of the people here. haha im so excited about this game........Or a makeshift LOC/ILS for those in need of help with decents without crashing.
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