4.09 interviews

[Furio]

Originally Posted by EZ1

Sooooo? Why not just fully implement 6DOF in 4.09?????

If a modder can do it they certainly can.

Because, as far as I know, Il2 cockpits aren’t fully 3d modeled, and there is no general consensus about quality of 6DOF with the cockpits we have.

A possible compromise would be to have a small number of “nodes” (or pivot points for pilot’s head) within the cockpit.

If it really would be a better and simpler solution, I don’t know, maybe Martin or other people from Daidalus can tell...

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by Furio

Because, as far as I know, Il2 cockpits aren’t fully 3d modeled, and there is no general consensus about quality of 6DOF with the cockpits we have.

A possible compromise would be to have a small number of “nodes” (or pivot points for pilot’s head) within the cockpit.

If it really would be a better and simpler solution, I don’t know, maybe Martin or other people from Daidalus can tell...

The simple fact is this is nonsense... I've been using the 6DOF mod now for some time and there are zero cockpit issues. People can put limits in the different cockpits to make sure you can't put your head through things. This is a very week excuse because the guys at Natural Point offered to do the work for free. They did the original work just to add TIR support.

[Furio]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

The simple fact is this is nonsense... I've been using the 6DOF mod now for some time and there are zero cockpit issues. People can put limits in the different cockpits to make sure you can't put your head through things. This is a very week excuse because the guys at Natural Point offered to do the work for free. They did the original work just to add TIR support.

I stand corrected. There’s no need for general consensus. Captain Stubing decide.

[JG27CaptStubing]

It's not a decision it's been stated that the new 4.09 won't have any effect on what's been already done by the community.

Sorry if it was read the wrong way but the simple fact is the cockpit execuse doesn't exist. They work just fine

[Furio]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

Sorry if it was read the wrong way

Not to be pedantic, but you should consider another possibility: that it was written the wrong way.
In my opinion, all of us should use more often the words “In my opinion”. And I think that “I disagree with you” can be more effective than “You’re saying nonsense”.
Anyway, I don’t want to make a case. Let’s go ahead with the thread. Peace.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by Furio

Not to be pedantic, but you should consider another possibility: that it was written the wrong way.
In my opinion, all of us should use more often the words “In my opinion”. And I think that “I disagree with you” can be more effective than “You’re saying nonsense”.
Anyway, I don’t want to make a case. Let’s go ahead with the thread. Peace.

Sure why not...

I didn't say you were nonsense... I said the excuse given by Oleg and Team was nonsense. You gave the same line they did for not putting 6DOF into the sim so you took it the wrong way.

As for the soft language... I meant to use very strong language because what I pointed out was garbage and said couldn't be done to the quality levels that Oleg and Team wanted. Complete BS which was proven with the now famous 6DOF mod.

Moving forward with the topic. Adding the capability to the new client is a waste of time considering we've now had the capability for over a year now.

Let them focus on content or other things that are still broken. That list is still there.

Goofy FMs for 38s (early onset of compression) P51s with magical wing shedding. Wrong belting for certain weapons. FW fuel leak that never fixes and drains the plane in 1-2 mins. One 50 cal takes all three controls on the FW anton series. High Alt performance issues. Perfect torpedos.

The list goes on and on...

[Hurri-Khan]

As stated by Martin in interview: the 4.09 was "safe card" we didn't touch any of existing planes or do any drastic changes into game.. yet. 1C will apply their own modifications based on 4.09 beta, what these will be in the end.. remains to be seen. Likely nothing major though.


>>>-H-K--->

[Furio]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

Sure why not...

I didn't say you were nonsense... I said the excuse given by Oleg and Team was nonsense. You gave the same line they did for not putting 6DOF into the sim so you took it the wrong way.

As for the soft language... I meant to use very strong language because what I pointed out was garbage and said couldn't be done to the quality levels that Oleg and Team wanted. Complete BS which was proven with the now famous 6DOF mod.

Moving forward with the topic. Adding the capability to the new client is a waste of time considering we've now had the capability for over a year now.

Let them focus on content or other things that are still broken. That list is still there.

Goofy FMs for 38s (early onset of compression) P51s with magical wing shedding. Wrong belting for certain weapons. FW fuel leak that never fixes and drains the plane in 1-2 mins. One 50 cal takes all three controls on the FW anton series. High Alt performance issues. Perfect torpedos.

The list goes on and on...

Following your logic, some questions come to mind.
Why Oleg and 1C refuse so adamantly to correct so obvious mistakes?
Are they evil men? Are they simply stubborn and stupid? Do they want to spoil our gaming?
Why Oleg and 1C choose Daidalus instead of those great modders?
Apparently, Daidalus people hadn’t any problems in contacting Oleg, make their proposals and reach an agreement with him. What prevented modders to propose better solutions, including 6DOF and other magic?
I stop here, because, to use Nearmiss words “Discussion about, referrals and links to mods or MODs site is prohibited in this site”. But an uncomfortable feeling remains that the real aim of all those harsh words – deliberately harsh – is simply to diminish the work of Daidalus people.