Oleg Maddox's Room #2 QUESTIONS & REQUESTS TO OLEG ABOUT BOB SOW

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Well, to shoot down a good number He-111 it's almost a mission impossible with the mark I Hurricane, but when it comes to shoot down Stukas, there's no plane better than the Hurricane.

You only have to close up, aim at the middle section (with the plane leveled) and open fire. Quickly one (or both) wing fuel tanks will be set on fire, and or the crew will jump or the tanks will explode.

I honestly prefer doing this with the Hurri than some cannon-armed Spitfire. As I don't have any mods I don't know how this work on the Mark I.

I was wondering, how will planes behave under .303 fire - will the Emils resist like Panzers, as in IL-2, or will fall like flies like in some movies and guncams? I strongly felt that the .303 shots were almost ineffective in IL-2, and that some movies put them stronger than a direct 88 shell. In some movies and guncam films, planes lost control and fall with only a single, but well aimed, burst. In IL-2 it takes many long and well aimed bursts to bring some fighter down. And if we are talking about bombers, you might empty your guns without even setting it on fire...

[Blackdog_kt]

I think rifle caliber rounds would in reality be ineffective for doing any serious damage, much like it is in IL2. In lower calibers there's too much depending on the type of round being fired, because the mass of the projectile is too low to have any real effect by virtue of impact alone.

If all the .303s had was regular rounds then i doubt they would do much damage. If on the other hand they had a mix of incendiary and armor-piercing rounds, it would be like a scaled down version of .50s. A high volume of fire with the correct ammo mix would mean that you stood a good chance of punching holes in some important parts of the target with your AP rounds, then your incendiaries would be able to set things alight.

I don't know what they really used, but i've read a similar discussion about the Hellenic air force intercepting Italian bombers during 1940. Greece had some Pzl.24s, some were also armed with 20mm cannons, but they couldn't do enough damage to consistently bring down an Italian bomber without emptying the entire magazine.
The reason was that most of the ammunition used was regular ball type rounds, incendiaries and APs were in very short supply or totally inexistent.

In one such case a Pzl.24 pilot emptied his guns on the enemy bomber, failed to down him and was so infuriated that he closed within ramming distance. He got the bomber's tail with his prop, they both crash landed and he proceeded to draw his sidearm and take the Italian crew prisoner. Talk about being p*ssed off that your rounds are not up to the job

[proton45]

Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

Well, to shoot down a good number He-111 it's almost a mission impossible with the mark I Hurricane, but when it comes to shoot down Stukas, there's no plane better than the Hurricane.

It looked pretty easy in the movie "Pearl Harbor"...

[robtek]

If viewed in account of the effect the spits in"Pearl Harbor" had at least mk108

[Lucas_From_Hell]

After you guys mentioned it, I searched at youtube just to remember the scenes (watched the movie a long, long time ago).

Noticed two things: the Spits were armed with 20mm cannons, so probably IIb or Vb. The other thing... How the hell was that American flying with an Eagle Squadron badge on the plane and using 303 Squadron's lettering? I'm sorry, but he didn't looked very Polish to me

And, by the way, the speech seen at those scenes were the worst radio chatter I've ever heard in my whole life...