Campaigns as Axis?

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by versapak

Politically correct morons?

Why would anyone actually want to play a campaign as the Nazis?


It is one thing to play as them as just another skin in a storyless multiplayer, but a campaign? There was nothing good about the Nazis, and their evil is too real to too many people to bring their side home as some sort of entertainment.

It has nothing to do with politically correct, and everything to do with decency as a member of the human race.

MAYA, you know I am not exactly poltically correct, but a campaign as the Nazis would disgust me, and I actually wouldn't support any game that would even attempt such a thing.

Not everyone was a 'evil'. Many of them were just doing their job like we do.

But here's something to make you think. Courtousy of trk29:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8027

[versapak]

Originally Posted by xNikex

Not everyone was a 'evil'. Many of them were just doing their job like we do.

But here's something to make you think. Courtousy of trk29:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8027

Yeah they were doing their jobs, and of course they weren't all evil. The cause they were fighting for certainly was evil though, and it (the cause) deserves no glorification in a game.

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by versapak

Yeah they were doing their jobs, and of course they weren't all evil. The cause they were fighting for certainly was evil though, and it (the cause) deserves no glorification in a game.

Not glorified, but relived from their point of view.

There were plenty of Luftwaffe pilots who didn't want to fight and never thought they'd make it through the war.

[versapak]

Originally Posted by xNikex

Not glorified, but relived from their point of view.

There were plenty of Luftwaffe pilots who didn't want to fight and never thought they'd make it through the war.

So you want a Nazi campaign where you play as people complaining about doing their evil job?






There is no need to tell the story of Nazis from their point of view, unless their point of view is anti-nazi, which is then NOT playing a Nazi campaign.



I am all for being able to set up those single missions flying their technology, but there is absolutely no need for any sort of campaign for it.

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by versapak

So you want a Nazi campaign where you play as people complaining about doing their evil job?






There is no need to tell the story of Nazis from their point of view, unless their point of view is anti-nazi, which is then NOT playing a Nazi campaign.



I am all for being able to set up those single missions flying their technology, but there is absolutely no need for any sort of campaign for it.

I can make everyone's posts look negative if I try too.

[David603]

There was an interesting test carried out by an American scientist named Stanley Milgram in the late 1960s. He got a group of ordinary Americans, and devised an experiment where the subject thought he/she was administering a series of electrical shocks to another person whenever they made an incorrect answer. 65% of the test subjects repeatedly administered a voltage that resulted in the "victim" screaming in agony and thrashing around audibly.

The percentage was even higher if the subject could observe other people apparently participating in the experiment and administering the same high voltages to other "victims".

Given the same situation as your average concentration camp guard in Germany, let alone a more honourable service such as the Luftwaffe, most people would have done the same.

[MAYAman]

Oh Versa also, not the entire German army was involved in the atocoties. Mostly SS and Waffen SS, the regualr Vermacht army was just like an American Joe, fighting because they are professional soldiers. Same goes for many of the pilots. Were there Zeolots? Sure. Are they any different from any conquering Army from Ceaser, to napoleon, to Atttlla the Hun, etc etc.

Like I said, what if scenarios are fascinating and to a history buff like me I expect it. Hell, channels like the History channel and the military channel would be off the air completely if they didn't have shows like Wings of the Luftwaffe and Hitlers bodyguards. LOL

Also, much of our military was built on captured or learned German military tactics and hardware. Our entire space program started with Von Brown, a captured Nazi. So many other instances where we borrowed, stole, or used the spoils of war from the so called evil doers.

[gozorak]

I dont think anyone should have to qualify, or explain why they would want to play as a Luftwaffe pilot...its a freaking video game..thats all that it is...Ive never gunned down cops or innocent civilians and I never will ..but it sure as hell is fun to do in GTA4. You have to play as the Japs in Battlefield 1943...and its fun running around with your melee samuari sword killing Marines and I prefer flying the Zero in that game to the Corsair..so what..I have a blast playing through JFK Reloaded from time to time...again doesnt make me an assassin or sympathetic to assassins. Now if someone ever released Sim Concentration Camp there might be a big PR problem but I would probably play that as well because its only a game...