Campaigns as Axis?

[David603]

You can also use Axis planes in Instant Action, which is basically the quick mission builder from the PC Il2s.

[guiltyspark]

unfortunately modern day politics will not allow for console games to depict "playing as teh evil nazis" in single player

but for some reason we are allowed to kill endless amounts of them

[MAYAman]

Politically correct morons with pull will make sure the game gets boycotted. I wish we could.

[versapak]

Politically correct morons?

Why would anyone actually want to play a campaign as the Nazis?


It is one thing to play as them as just another skin in a storyless multiplayer, but a campaign? There was nothing good about the Nazis, and their evil is too real to too many people to bring their side home as some sort of entertainment.

It has nothing to do with politically correct, and everything to do with decency as a member of the human race.

MAYA, you know I am not exactly poltically correct, but a campaign as the Nazis would disgust me, and I actually wouldn't support any game that would even attempt such a thing.

[David603]

Jeez, we aren't talking about a campaign where you directly helped Nazi's to kill Jews. What we are talking about is a set of missions as a German pilot. All the older PC Il2s have campaigns where you can play as Axis pilots.

Besides, you want to know which nation that you can play in campaign is guilty of worse war crimes than the Germans? Thats right, the Russians.

[versapak]

A campagin implies to me story, and there is no Nazi story deserving of being told from their side.

Now setting up single missions with generic goals in a Nazi plane, is totally different.

[David603]

So, by your standards, there is no campaign mode in Il2 Birds of Prey. Just a series of generic missions strung together with no background story.

And don't you understand, there is no such thing as clear cut black and white good vs evil in war, just shades of grey. At a guess, there won't be a mission where American or British bombers carpet bomb a city either.

[wannabetheace]

Originally Posted by David603

Jeez, we aren't talking about a campaign where you directly helped Nazi's to kill Jews. What we are talking about is a set of missions as a German pilot. All the older PC Il2s have campaigns where you can play as Axis pilots.

Besides, you want to know which nation that you can play in campaign is guilty of worse war crimes than the Germans? Thats right, the Russians.

No u are big wrong,
US made the most evils than Russians,
Look, US bombers bombed and killed more civillians that Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined in German cities,
They are just civillians, and US now justifies thier bloody murder or holocaust.

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by wannabetheace

No u are big wrong,
US made the most evils than Russians,
Look, US bombers bombed and killed more civillians that Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined in German cities,
They are just civillians, and US now justifies thier bloody murder or holocaust.

actually those bombings were completely justified

If we had not bombed japan into submission millions of japanese people would have died

over a million US dead was a estimate

You see the japanese at the time believed that surrender would bring shame upon themselves and their families. They were being trained to defend every inch of japanese soil with at most sharp bamboo pikes and rocks. Children had drills at school to kill american soldiers. And women were told that GI's would rape and murder them on sight.

While we did kill alot of people in the bombings, it averted what could have possibly been the most horrific battle in human history and we saved more lives then we took.

just look at okinawa for example

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by versapak

Politically correct morons?

Why would anyone actually want to play a campaign as the Nazis?


It is one thing to play as them as just another skin in a storyless multiplayer, but a campaign? There was nothing good about the Nazis, and their evil is too real to too many people to bring their side home as some sort of entertainment.

It has nothing to do with politically correct, and everything to do with decency as a member of the human race.

MAYA, you know I am not exactly poltically correct, but a campaign as the Nazis would disgust me, and I actually wouldn't support any game that would even attempt such a thing.

Not everyone was a 'evil'. Many of them were just doing their job like we do.

But here's something to make you think. Courtousy of trk29:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8027