The US release date needs to be moved up 1 week it makes no sense at all for this

[David603]

Well, in Europe Birds of Prey comes out before Heroes Over Europe, so that situation is reversed over here. However, I can see your point about the two games competing for sales, since while they occupy the opposite ends of the WWII flight spectrum, a lot of sales are made to people who go into a shop and buy a game based on the box, and being present on the shelf is a major advantage. I know a lot of people buy games this way because I was working in a Gamestation store over the earlier this year.

[Marchochias]

Hahah this denniss guy is so naive. He wants it moved up just for HIM, as if his 50 bucks makes any difference.

Look, if you have such a short attention span that you can't wait a whole week to get the best combat flight sim out there over a pathetic arcade game like Heroes of Europe, go ahead and get Heroes of Europe and stop trying to tell the developers of IL-2 what to do.

[fritzwendel]

Originally Posted by guiltyspark

actually it was , you have to be a complete dumbass to think a game with no demo or fanbase can compete with one that does and plays better

Heroes over Europe is the sequel to Heroes of the Pacific, which has QUITE a bit of a console fan base.

There are members on this forum who got here BECAUSE of the HOTP forums. Myself included.

Also, how do you know BoP plays better than Heroes? like you said, there is no demo at this point, so how can you make such a conclusion?

I think his premise of "first to the table" is not the best way to buy the best game, but his foolish post has been upstaged by your even sillier response.

[David603]

There are a number of gameplay trailers out for Heroes Over Europe. From them you will be able to see that gravity plays no part in the game, and the whole handling setup is very arcade like. Therefore if you are looking for a flight sim Il2 wins hands down.

[JCofDI]

While that is true - you can look at a lot of videos of people playing IL-2 Birds of Prey and see that there's no stalling, unlimited ammo, planes exploding after 1 bullet grazes them, etc. It's not representative of how 99% of this forum will play it, true, but it's how the press is playing it and therefore how it will be relayed for the most part.

Heroes over Europe is a more arcade-style game, certainly - but the previous release of Heroes of the Pacific (which I thoroughly enjoyed) has already shown that it does arcade-style very well and with a great storytelling flair. BoP is unfortunately a newcomer to arcade WW2 flying. It's done an excellent job I think, but you still have to consider that most console gamers are going to take past experience into consideration a lot more than how much gravity the plane will be battling.

[SleepTrgt]

If youre gonna buy one, you probably check out the games.
Check out wich game is nicer in your opinion.
But aperantly you cant wait and just buy a game blindly.

1 week after another game is nothing, if youre smart you check out a game and then decide wich one you buy, not buying a game blindly when you know there are 2 games coming out after each other.