Will the full game feature...?

[loopdreams]

Originally Posted by haitch40

this thread has turned into a argument like the black outs 1 lol

To be fair it's mostly turned into an argument because of some twelve year old morons going "How dare you criticise, this game is GREAT!!!!, STFU and get used to it"

On reflection even if the option was there to swap the sticks then the pad would still be pretty useless as you would then have the problem of having to remove your thumb from the main flight controls in order to use the face buttons.

So for me whether or not I get this game all hinges on the availability of a decent flight stick.

One thing unrelated to the control scheme that was bugging me a bit is the targetting. Is there any way to set an enemy in your crosshairs as the target? For a game that boasts about how many planes might be in the air at a time the current system of going through every single one seems a bit cumbersome.

[elneilios]

Originally Posted by loopdreams

One thing unrelated to the control scheme that was bugging me a bit is the targetting. Is there any way to set an enemy in your crosshairs as the target? For a game that boasts about how many planes might be in the air at a time the current system of going through every single one seems a bit cumbersome.

WWII planes didn't have a targetting system, just human eyesight so I guess the developers didn't want to make the game too inaccurate with a complex HUD style targetting system but wanted to make something available so it wasn't too hard to play. If you use Sim mode you have no targetting at all!

[loopdreams]

Originally Posted by elneilios

WWII planes didn't have a targetting system, just human eyesight so I guess the developers didn't want to make the game too inaccurate with a complex HUD style targetting system but wanted to make something available so it wasn't too hard to play. If you use Sim mode you have no targetting at all!

Well they certainly saw fit to include a targetting system on all but one of the modes, all I'm suggesting is a "hold A to target nearest enemy in view" or similar. I'm not convinced by your argument that the lack of any such feature is some kind of an attempt at, or a nod toward, authenticity.

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by elneilios

WWII planes didn't have a targetting system, just human eyesight so I guess the developers didn't want to make the game too inaccurate with a complex HUD style targetting system but wanted to make something available so it wasn't too hard to play. If you use Sim mode you have no targetting at all!

true the first target system was developed for korea and it showed u how to lad a target
btw my country keeps raining lol

[elneilios]

Originally Posted by haitch40

true the first target system was developed for korea and it showed u how to lad a target
btw my country keeps raining lol

Ha, our weathermen predicted heat waves and 30+ degrees! But like you it is now raining and is about 18 degrees!! We should move to a better climate I think!

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by elneilios

Ha, our weathermen predicted heat waves and 30+ degrees! But like you it is now raining and is about 18 degrees!! We should move to a better climate I think!

30+ my god where r u i need to go there

[elneilios]

Originally Posted by haitch40

30+ my god where r u i need to go there

You're already here mate! The (not so) sunny UK! It was on the news last night about just how wrong the weathermen got it for this summers predictions. Had a lovely Spring at least....

[elneilios]

Originally Posted by elneilios

You're already here mate! The (not so) sunny UK! It was on the news last night about just how wrong the weathermen got it for this summers predictions. Had a lovely Spring at least....

Haha - I just realised the irony of how very English it is of us to discuss the weather amidst the raging warzone of this thread.... lol

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by loopdreams

Is there any way to set an enemy in your crosshairs as the target? For a game that boasts about how many planes might be in the air at a time the current system of going through every single one seems a bit cumbersome.

There are few ways to do it.
First, if no target is selected already - press 'A', and the nearest to your crosshair fighter will be selected (well, we have some heurestics here, depending on angle and distance). Automatically, the game build list of all enemies nearby, so you can cycle with 'A' through all of them.

What you are probably asking about is how to select another fighter after this (list is already made, and you can just cycle).

First, just shoot somewhere to enemy. He'll become auto-targeted automatically.
Second, destroying selected target force the game to re-build this list.
Third, after a while (15 seconds, afair) pressing 'A' will work like there is no target (selecting closest one).
And the last, but not the least. Press'n'hold 'A' will select one of your Main Objective target (if there are any nearby). It is very helpful.

We experimented a lot with. Tens of different solutions. And stayed on this.

Now, if you think over it, it is reasonable.
Always selecting closest target by 'A' won't allow you to select targets which are probably more interesting - let's say you are on tail of one bomber, but closest one is fighter covering it. Or, more illustrative, ground targets/ships won't be selected at all - most of the time, you are not diving.
And we need to have some way to select Main Targets, because, um, they are Main.

Hope, that answers your question.

[loopdreams]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

There are few ways to do it.
First, if no target is selected already - press 'A', and the nearest to your crosshair fighter will be selected (well, we have some heurestics here, depending on angle and distance). Automatically, the game build list of all enemies nearby, so you can cycle with 'A' through all of them.

What you are probably asking about is how to select another fighter after this (list is already made, and you can just cycle).

First, just shoot somewhere to enemy. He'll become auto-targeted automatically.
Second, destroying selected target force the game to re-build this list.
Third, after a while (15 seconds, afair) pressing 'A' will work like there is no target (selecting closest one).
And the last, but not the least. Press'n'hold 'A' will select one of your Main Objective target (if there are any nearby). It is very helpful.

We experimented a lot with. Tens of different solutions. And stayed on this.

Now, if you think over it, it is reasonable.
Always selecting closest target by 'A' won't allow you to select targets which are probably more interesting - let's say you are on tail of one bomber, but closest one is fighter covering it. Or, more illustrative, ground targets/ships won't be selected at all - most of the time, you are not diving.
And we need to have some way to select Main Targets, because, um, they are Main.

Hope, that answers your question.

Thanks, man. Makes sense.