The real IL2 focus group (Everyone come in here)

[guiltyspark]

Originally Posted by juz1

OK Guilty, you've just made a massively discriminatory remark against a large number of vulnerable members of society, who achieve, amongst other things, full triathlon finishes, karate blackbelts and pilot licences. Their issues are absolutlely no fault or choice of their own...unlike many idiots in society who spread hate and ignorance...

I know you are passionate about this game, but please choose your insults a little more carefully in future if you wish to maintain a basic level of respect for your posts...freedom of speech can be a rope to hang ourselves with...

peace

if there was no hate and ignorance the social gap would only widen between normal functioning human beings and the retarded. Keep an open mind and dont take offense to things on the internet no matter how "wrong" it may appear.

[juz1]

Originally Posted by guiltyspark

if there was no hate and ignorance the social gap would only widen between normal functioning human beings and the retarded. Keep an open mind and dont take offense to things on the internet no matter how "wrong" it may appear.

as blatant a troll as you are ever likely to see
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[jt_medina]

Only one thing. Post this thread on lets say SIMHQ IL2 forums and tell them that blackouts will not be included. SIMHQ has a very well known and busy forum with thousands of visitors every day. There you could have a better sample of what people would really think.

To me as a first day IL2 fan, the lack of this feature is dumbing down the product and it is unbelievable base it on focus group. But at the same time I still think that BOP is gonna be a leap forward in console simulation.

[P-51]

Your all scared its not going to be IL-2 Sturmovik anymore! Well newsflash its not going to be, its IL-2 Sturmovik:Birds of prey a new game! And as Anton said the redouts/blackouts are in the game, there just turned off!


Post this thread on lets say SIMHQ IL2 forums and tell them that blackouts will not be included. SIMHQ has a very well known and busy forum with thousands of visitors every day. There you could have a better sample of what people would really think. I think you forgot that they are simulation nuts therefore a biased Group of people!
Chris

[Soviet Ace]

I think having Red and Black outs adds to the fun. It just adds depth to the game while playing.

[haitch40]

stop pestering Anton just be grateful for the game if you want a real flying experience buy a microlite for about £3000 or even better get a replica made for u (this will cost alot)

[Soviet Ace]

My uncle here in the US owns a small glider company, and those are fun to fly around for a good two or more hours (even eight on a REALLY good day).

[versapak]

I definitely like having them, as it does add something to the gameplay, but I can understand their exclusion, and it certainly will have no bearing on my purchase of this game or not.

[xNikex]

Originally Posted by jt_medina

Only one thing. Post this thread on lets say SIMHQ IL2 forums and tell them that blackouts will not be included. SIMHQ has a very well known and busy forum with thousands of visitors every day. There you could have a better sample of what people would really think.

To me as a first day IL2 fan, the lack of this feature is dumbing down the product and it is unbelievable base it on focus group. But at the same time I still think that BOP is gonna be a leap forward in console simulation.

Well like Anton said, this wouldn't truely simulate human reactions to those conditions. In real life, you could pass out from extended lack of blood flow to the brain(meaning you can't pull g's forever), you would not be able to move your head freely around the cockpit, etc.

The bright side is that you have to remember that there still is 'head sway' when moving the plane around in cockpit view.

Like I said earlier, if the publisher was trying to get rid of simulation mode and flight stick support, be THANKFUL that Anton only has to get rid of black/red outs.

[jt_medina]

Originally Posted by xNikex

if the publisher was trying to get rid of simulation mode and flight stick support, be THANKFUL that Anton only has to get rid of black/red outs.

This is the saddest part of the story. They are dumbing BOP down because they are scared of losing buyers. I think this is the first simulator ever that doesn´t include blackouts in simulation mode.

Originally Posted by P-51

Your all scared its not going to be IL-2 Sturmovik anymore! Well newsflash its not going to be, its IL-2 Sturmovik:Birds of prey a new game! And as Anton said the redouts/blackouts are in the game, there just turned off!


Post this thread on lets say SIMHQ IL2 forums and tell them that blackouts will not be included. SIMHQ has a very well known and busy forum with thousands of visitors every day. There you could have a better sample of what people would really think. I think you forgot that they are simulation nuts therefore a biased Group of people!
Chris

I think you are now being biased too...
Read and learn.
http://www.simhq.com/_air12/air_408a.html
http://www.simhq.com/_air12/air_403a.html
http://www.simhq.com/_air9/air_287a.html