oleg, you better hurry, RoF is releasing a ww-2 sim next

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Neobq also added the D.5 Ablatros, the Nieuport 28 for free.

As they should have as they were to be there in the first place.

[Feuerfalke]

True.

[virre89]

Anyway abit offtopic for the discussion but a "in your face" kinda thing..
Command and Conquer 4 , yes as far away from a ww2 simulation you can get , have just announced that they require constant internet connection while playing, even for Single Player à La RoF.. just thought some people should realize this is a buisniss model that is gonna get even more common with the years to come... even for casual games..

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by virre89

Anyway abit offtopic for the discussion but a "in your face" kinda thing..
Command and Conquer 4 , yes as far away from a ww2 simulation you can get , have just announced that they require constant internet connection while playing, even for Single Player à La RoF.. just thought some people should realize this is a buisniss model that is gonna get even more common with the years to come... even for casual games..

It might become more common, if people knowingly buy software that behaves that way. I won't be buying software like that.

[Thunderbolt56]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

As they should have as they were to be there in the first place.

Actually, not true. It's the same type of snafu that plagued 1:C maddox regarding the Betty bomber and a few other flyables that the publisher put on the box art thus giving the impression they would be included. 1:C responded by finishing that (and a few other things) and putting them in a free patch. Not much difference really.

As far as fighting your inputs, trim adjustments were only present in a few models (like the SE5a for one) and it was limited. The standard practice for many was to set their control surfaces to be slightly nose-up at a certain airspeed and fly with constant forward stick pressure. Sounds awkward (and it is), but it was common then.

To what extent should we have to apply forward stick pressure to achieve level flight (as one example) is still being worked out.


TB

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt56

Actually, not true. It's the same type of snafu that plagued 1:C maddox regarding the Betty bomber and a few other flyables that the publisher put on the box art thus giving the impression they would be included. 1:C responded by finishing that (and a few other things) and putting them in a free patch. Not much difference really.
TB

You do know who Albert Zhiltsov is, don't you?

PC Pilot Magazine, Jan-Feb 2009, Page 59.

Albert Zhiltsov - "On initial release the end-user will be able to fly the legendary Albatros D.V, Fokker D.VII, Niewport 28 and SPAD 13."

There it is for you in 'black and white'.

All 1C patches for Il-2 were free.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

You do know who Albert Zhiltsov is, don't you?

PC Pilot Magazine, Jan-Feb 2009, Page 59.

Albert Zhiltsov - "On initial release the end-user will be able to fly the legendary Albatros D.V, Fokker D.VII, Niewport 28 and SPAD 13."

There it is for you in 'black and white'.

All 1C patches for Il-2 were free.

Not patches.........updates

[virre89]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

You do know who Albert Zhiltsov is, don't you?

PC Pilot Magazine, Jan-Feb 2009, Page 59.

Albert Zhiltsov - "On initial release the end-user will be able to fly the legendary Albatros D.V, Fokker D.VII, Niewport 28 and SPAD 13."

There it is for you in 'black and white'.

All 1C patches for Il-2 were free.

All RoF patches are free as well.. what are you on about luls.
Only addons will cost such as planes.. lewl

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by virre89

All RoF patches are free as well.. what are you on about luls.
Only addons will cost such as planes.. lewl

IL2 updates were free the only paid addon I bought was the PE2 Peschka and that was only because the Russian market had it and the Western market demanded it, it comes included now in IL2 1946 @ £9.99

Free updates included
100's of aircraft
ships
vehicles
artillery
armour
buildings
100's of ground objects
maps
and some stuff I've probably missed.

I wonder if RoF are going to just charge for planes.

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

IL2 updates were free the only paid addon I bought was the PE2 Peschka and that was only because the Russian market had it and the Western market demanded it, it comes included now in IL2 1946 @ £9.99

Free updates included
100's of aircraft
ships
vehicles
artillery
armour
buildings
100's of ground objects
maps
and some stuff I've probably missed.

I wonder if RoF are going to just charge for planes.

And the winning answer is...... "Who Cares".

Those that want to pay for add on's will, and those that don't wont. It has no effect on people who haven't purchased the game yet.