First Bf109 shot down in history

[rakinroll]

Great!

[wheelsup_cavu]

Nicely done.
Looking forward to your updates.


Wheels

[EAF602_Joe90]

Amazing graphics.

I saw this and thought it was a CGI video, but it is IL2.

Want to share any secrets on how you got the effects, especially the sky backgrounds? Chromokeyed? or is that from some mods? It is a stunning effect.

Really looking forward to the full movie, any idea when?

Cheers.

[TUCKIE_JG52]

About mid or end september... have to modify all this previous and use the Bf-109B mod, the correct one.

Obviously it's a croma, but the key is how to match backgrounds... essay and error and lots of hours spent!

[EAF602_Joe90]

Cheers, looking forward to it. Your attention to detail, and the time that takes, is impressive.

[David603]

Not that I want to be down on your video, because it looks truly fantastic (here's to the day when we get a flight sim that looks that good ingame), but isn't there some controversy about whether or not Frank Tinker did shoot down that Bf109B? According to Augsburg Eagle, by William Green, which is a very good if admitedly rather old book, the Condor Legion admitted no Bf109 losses on the 13th, and the Bf109 flown by Unteroffizier Honess that is attributed to Tinker on this day fell in fact on the 17th, and not to a fighter which would back up Tinker's second claim but to a Tupelov bomber. Since it is therefore Tinker word vs the Condor Legion's records and their records appear accurate with no other aircraft loss discrepancies, with nothing else to back up Tinker apart from the Republicans crediting him with the kill, and they had already lied about a claim for a Bf09B for a Russian pilot, aren't Tinker's claims in some doubt?

[TUCKIE_JG52]

Originally Posted by David603

Not that I want to be down on your video, because it looks truly fantastic (here's to the day when we get a flight sim that looks that good ingame), but isn't there some controversy about whether or not Frank Tinker did shoot down that Bf109B? According to Augsburg Eagle, by William Green, which is a very good if admitedly rather old book, the Condor Legion admitted no Bf109 losses on the 13th, and the Bf109 flown by Unteroffizier Honess that is attributed to Tinker on this day fell in fact on the 17th, and not to a fighter which would back up Tinker's second claim but to a Tupelov bomber. Since it is therefore Tinker word vs the Condor Legion's records and their records appear accurate with no other aircraft loss discrepancies, with nothing else to back up Tinker apart from the Republicans crediting him with the kill, and they had already lied about a claim for a Bf09B for a Russian pilot, aren't Tinker's claims in some doubt?

If we believe every version, all can be put in doubt, and we have to assume that the trully truth will never be known.

According to "The Legion Condor" from Ries & Ring, also reportedly based on LW files, Honess fell that day, but is mentioned as "Fallen some days ago" past his date's loss.

That's another different version, and not from Tinker itself...

It is not clear what code had the 109, it has been told that the 6-4, but there's a picture of its fuselage slightly ruined, not from a vertical crash to the ground as it has been said.

And it's also not clear if Tinker had a Betty Boo painted on its tail or not. The problem on all this is that if I want to depict someting, I must show something, or if I was ever in doubt about it all, nothing could be done.