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[bsmith13]

Originally Posted by Tomo

Could anyone explain the difference between Cannons and Machine guns. Sorry i know this sounds quite naive, but honestly i don't know.

While explosive bullets were developed for machine guns, all cannon shells were meant to explode. The hitting power was tremendous, as a cannon round would not merely penetrate and expend itself, it would detonate and take a piece of the target with it.

[guiltyspark]

I dont know where i read it , but it said that a single burst of cannon fire from a ME109 could down a B17

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by guiltyspark

I dont know where i read it , but it said that a single burst of cannon fire from a ME109 could down a B17

Likely.
There is a statistics about WW2 planes available.
I don't remember exactly, but in average it took no more 2 bursts from less than 100 meters to get almost any plane (without heavy armour at least, such as IL-2) down.
The real problems were: accuracy of those bursts and get on a shooting distance without being shot.

As an illustration.
One day, someone (it was in Britain, afair) discovered, that most (almost all) planes were repaired from wins and (much less) fuselage damage.
Not pilot, wing control, or engine. Mostly - wings.
And they almost started a project of improving wings armour! Until someone, discovered, that all repaired planes were actually returned to base planes.

Good (short) burst from even machine guns from small distance to plane's engine or pilot - very likely will destroy plane.
If it is cannon - you can destroy even wing (not talking that distance increasing).

[Skii]

The Me109E relied heavily on its cannon armament, 2 x 20mm cannon in each wing, secondary armament was 2 x 7.92mm machine guns above the engine. The ammunition for the 109E's cannons was limited to only 60 rounds per gun - so the pilot needed to be accurate to make his rounds count, obviously a hit by a cannon shell was more devastating than the .303 browning bullet fired by the 8-gun spits and hurricanes, but the respective total armaments of the 109 and the Spit pretty much balanced each other at the time.

Anton, I don't want to labour this point for much longer as I very much respect the work you and your colleagues have put in bringing this sim to the console market , and believe you me I'll be spending many as many hours in the Fw-190 as the Spitfire variants, but is there any chance of the Spit Mk1 being added as a DLC in the future ? A Battle of Britain campaign really needs the right key aircraft

[Anton Yudintsev]

It is possible.

[Skii]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

It is possible.

Good stuff, I'll take that as a glimmer of hope

thankyou

[Hineni]

Thanks, Anton. I can understand, from a gaming standpoint, the choices you have made. However, I agree with Skii. I would like the option of flying the correct period aircraft.

A Spitfire Mk I and Hurricane Mk I would be very welcome, either in an expansion pack or as DLC.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev

It is possible.

Good news thanks for reading my comments. I really respect that.

[Marchochias]

Originally Posted by Skii

The Me109E relied heavily on its cannon armament, 2 x 20mm cannon in each wing, secondary armament was 2 x 7.92mm machine guns above the engine. The ammunition for the 109E's cannons was limited to only 60 rounds per gun - so the pilot needed to be accurate to make his rounds count, obviously a hit by a cannon shell was more devastating than the .303 browning bullet fired by the 8-gun spits and hurricanes, but the respective total armaments of the 109 and the Spit pretty much balanced each other at the time.

The armaments themselves weren't exactly balanced, as you say, the cannons had very little ammunition. It might give the Bf 109 an advantage against the first fighter that it shoots at, but as soon as they run out of those 120 rounds, they'd be at a pretty big disadvantage against further aircraft with only 2 small machine guns.

If their positions had been reversed, imagine how long it would have taken Bf 109s with no cannon ammo left to shoot down even small bombers like the He 111, with only the two small machine guns.

Then again, they had some other advantages, like the fuel injecting and what not. My point is that not all of these factors can be represented accurately in a game.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Marchochias

The armaments themselves weren't exactly balanced, as you say, the cannons had very little ammunition. It might give the Bf 109 an advantage against the first fighter that it shoots at, but as soon as they run out of those 120 rounds, they'd be at a pretty big disadvantage against further aircraft with only 2 small machine guns.

If their positions had been reversed, imagine how long it would have taken Bf 109s with no cannon ammo left to shoot down even small bombers like the He 111, with only the two small machine guns.

Then again, they had some other advantages, like the fuel injecting and what not. My point is that not all of these factors can be represented accurately in a game.

The 109's had a stupid amount of ammo in their machine guns. They had a minutes worth or so. In my opinion, they could just spray and pray a bomber like this or-if they were good shots-focus it all on the engines