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Old 05-19-2009, 01:42 PM
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Well the last time Oleg indicated to us a release date he said September 2009,(...)
Where and when, please? He never did.
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Old 05-19-2009, 01:44 PM
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Where and when, please? He never did.
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:15 PM
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Where and when, please? He never did.
Oh dear, you and Feurefalke have memories like goldfish, yet your so quick to jump on people, ok let me help you boys a little.

Remember this, systems specs in May, late summer release 2009.

http://www.theghostfiles.org/

Olegs response when asked if he had talked to the guy was this,

"Yes, he was spoken to me. However I told that it is my hope, if everything will going Ok without any serious development technical problems"

and finally Oleg posts this on the 31/12/2008,


Hi!

Happy New Year!

And personally for me I wish myself to finish BoB in new Year!



Almost finished:


He was a little optimistic with the almost finished bit.

....and Feurefalke i am not angry or disappointed i am just being realistic.


Note, i will be accepting your apologies either in forum or by pm.

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Old 05-19-2009, 03:52 PM
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Interesting that he has recruited people from the Il-2 modding community to work on SoW. They'll probably get stuck with that SaSqN fellow as their project manager. Just to punish them.
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:58 PM
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Interesting that he has recruited people from the Il-2 modding community to work on SoW. They'll probably get stuck with that SaSqN fellow as their project manager. Just to punish them.
. that's very good.
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Old 05-22-2009, 02:55 AM
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Remember this, systems specs in May, late summer release 2009.

http://www.theghostfiles.org/
and you basing all your foot stomping on "some guy who at one time had a conversation with oleg and was told something about a release date" ?

that is very fragile ground to justify making so many demanding and aggressive posts to oleg from imo. if its a direct face to face personal conversation oleg was having with a fan/il2-user, that is very different from an official statement making some formal announcements, or oleg speaking formally to a know blogger who will post his exact words for 1000's to then read.

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Olegs response when asked if he had talked to the guy was this,

"Yes, he was spoken to me. However I told that it is my hope, if everything will going Ok without any serious development technical problems"
the key word there being *hope*, so it is his intention to release in 2009 (which hasnt passed yet eh) and he even qualifies it because these large projects can be hard to give a specific completion date for. oleg is also his own man and largely acting as an independent producer so he has a lot more leeway that many other similar projects

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and finally Oleg posts this on the 31/12/2008,
Hi!
Happy New Year!
And personally for me I wish myself to finish BoB in new Year!
Almost finished:
right, so for the first time from the man himself a statement to his fanbase (in this forum, his own forum), that his intention is to release it in 2009, oleg doesnt even give a firm commitment, he states it as his aim. if the end of 2009 passes and it is still not released on the 1e day of 2010, you can start your grumbling


with the most recent simhq interview i see the news as being all good, the project is on track, we are getting many of the features we had hoped for like ground vehicle control added in at some point, more complex and advanced flight modeling then sims like RoF ar getting all hyped about, full dynamic campaign, control of individual flak guns, individual human figures with skeletal animation, etc....


the BoB memorial day in 2009 is in early july, and oleg just specifically stated that by the 2010 memorial day he expects to have many 1000's of people flying his new sim, then with everything we know so far i'd put an estimate of release date between november 2009 and march 2010

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Old 05-22-2009, 06:58 AM
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and you basing all your foot stomping on "some guy who at one time had a conversation with oleg and was told something about a release date" ?

that is very fragile ground to justify making so many demanding and aggressive posts to oleg from imo. if its a direct face to face personal conversation oleg was having with a fan/il2-user, that is very different from an official statement making some formal announcements, or oleg speaking formally to a know blogger who will post his exact words for 1000's to then read.



the key word there being *hope*, so it is his intention to release in 2009 (which hasnt passed yet eh) and he even qualifies it because these large projects can be hard to give a specific completion date for. oleg is also his own man and largely acting as an independent producer so he has a lot more leeway that many other similar projects



right, so for the first time from the man himself a statement to his fanbase (in this forum, his own forum), that his intention is to release it in 2009, oleg doesnt even give a firm commitment, he states it as his aim. if the end of 2009 passes and it is still not released on the 1e day of 2010, you can start your grumbling


with the most recent simhq interview i see the news as being all good, the project is on track, we are getting many of the features we had hoped for like ground vehicle control added in at some point, more complex and advanced flight modeling then sims like RoF ar getting all hyped about, full dynamic campaign, control of individual flak guns, individual human figures with skeletal animation, etc....


the BoB memorial day in 2009 is in early july, and oleg just specifically stated that by the 2010 memorial day he expects to have many 1000's of people flying his new sim, then with everything we know so far i'd put an estimate of release date between november 2009 and march 2010
Zapista, go back through all my posts and show me one where i have demanded anything from Oleg, again you are distorting any of my posts, you say iam foot stomping and demanding, I would say i have merely asked questions.
Any sane person would surely accept that Oleg has got some of his timings wrong on this project, that is not a critism of Oleg its just a simple fact. Yes these things happen but without reasonable communication then questions are certainly going to be asked about statemnets that have been made. I personally dont think that is unreasonable, obviously some of you guys do. I guess you will just have to live with it.

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Old 05-22-2009, 10:16 AM
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the only timing issue i see is that initially an evolution of il2 into BoB was due in about 2007, just before that we started to get indications of a complete rewrite of the grafix and game engine was planned instead, which pushed all work out by a couple of years. once that track change was established i dont think oleg ever quoted any dates or times

i am as eager as anybody else here, i just think that in the context of oleg working on our ONLY big hope for the next big ww-2 sim we can give him some positive support and encouragement. it is obviously clear the project is making major strides in its progress, and is now coming together nicely.
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:20 PM
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I hear what you are saying Zap, but in the ghostfiles interview it was stated that we will get system specs in May 09 and release September 09, Oleg was subsequently asked if he had spoke to this person he said he had, he also did not say in any shape or form that the information was untrue, all he said was he was 'hoping' for these dates. Its obvious that the guy from Ghostfiles didn't just pluck these dates out of thin air or Oleg would have rebuked them, which he clearly didn't.
These debates are all brought about because of lack of communication/information if we have neither then we are left with 'speculation' be it positive or negative. I admire your optimism it seems to serve you well, i do not flame you when you post your optimistic messages, thus i feel you should respect my more concerted view. I also would like to reiterate that i have never demanded anything, neither i have i slated Oleg, the guy is a genius without question. I have only asked or inquired about information posted on this site either by admins and or Oleg. Most of my question are answered with pure speculation from those that claim to be 'in the know' - this does rattle my cage considerably and i am guilty of many sarcastic replies which i have now reflected upon after receiving a pm from a valued forum member who shall remain nameless.


Now lets move on


peace

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Old 05-22-2009, 02:36 PM
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Well Oleg mentioned ingame screenshots would be published starting by September this year. Until we start seeing a promotion purpose of the game i.e ingame videos and some actual footage we can be sure enough the game ain't around the corner.

2010 sounds most likely juding by all that's been said, nonthelss i don't mind having a year with RoF until BoB comes out.
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