Impossible warrior on freedom islands

[Zuvio]

@ Vilk, killing mobs with less than max units in your army makes them a higher difficulty and also give more xp. Maybe thats a trick we dont use and can explain higher level. My top level was level 9 barely before going to islands and that is with no tactics treatise and max level learning ASAP. I also saw in his save that he cleared out griffon islands and actually killed all mobs in Old/Abandoned Castle, two things I usually dont. Especially the castle with all the paintings give nice xp. Also, he upgraded all items he could and he stated in another thread that his tactics treatise had to be surpressed when he was almost done with the startings areas. Again more xp. And doing turtle at level 2 gives more xp than doing it at level 5. Doing turtle ASAP is best, see his thorn hunter tactic for killing turtle easy.

@ Calinda: thank you for sharing your savegames. They have proven to be very insightful. Some differences between your game and mine: you have higher leadership when you arrive on the islands making the mobs lower difficulty for you. For me all mobs are stronger. Also your skill trees are different than mine. I maxed out distortion and order magic and so I had little runes left to go to chaos. You also go for leadership reducing talents, I see those are your goal in the might and magic trees. Seeing as how I arrived on the islands and how you arrived clearly shows me I made some big errors in developing my game. The main idea is the same, my execution just left me in a much worse position. I also had less luck than you, I had no sacrifice up until the islands and I also could only buy 24 inquisitors total. I didnt have tactics treatise although I figure that one is just added bonus and not necessary.

Your highscore is still the highest, but what I found most impressive was that in your end stats you had so little losses of units. That was what puzzled me the most. Several people came close to your score, but with heavy losses and I couldnt see how you did it with so few losses. So thanks again for the insight, it was really helpful!

[Calinda]

Actually I even did the fights in the Old castle, including those mobs summoned by the paintings in there. These fights alone can bring you from 10 to 11, but surely are pretty hard, and some of the few loses that I had are from there.
To have less loses sometimes you have to prolong fights and take some time to resurrect your army.

[Zuvio]

Calinda, could you explain your tactic vs the turtle again? Did you use 2xtelekenisis on one thorn hunter to get him before the turtle on round 2 and then catch up with the other thorn? Im trying that strat but the turtle uses aoe before i can get a thon in front of him.

[DGDobrev]

Doing the turtle quest on level 2 is nice, but looking and calinda's save, I don't think he did that. There's quite a bunch of quests completed before lyaro island, and maybe just as right - having as much +XP items before fighting the turtle gives a rather handsome XP boost. I also saw that it takes some time to go to lyaro and back, so that quest is probably best completed at the end of day 1 so that you don't lose a day traveling.

[Calinda]

I did the turtle at 6:55 AM at day 2 so I dont lose extra time ...
Edit: Cant remember if it was exactly 6:55, only one way of the travel to the turtle rolls a day, don't remember which one, but I'm sure you got the idea.

[DGDobrev]

It's the second one, going back to Greenwort, I'm positive. So if anyone's doing the turtle, it has to be within a normal time limit of that 6:55 AM deadline.

I also noticed that you pretty much didn't change your initial troop setup. However, getting 24 horsemen is impressive. So far I didn't see more than 15 in the camp. I wonder if that has something to do with playing the paladin, since the game and the troop setup is pretty much different for the three chars.

[Calinda]

I got them via Sacrifice, I had 9-10 in the camp I think.

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by Calinda

I did the turtle at 6:55 AM at day 2 so I dont lose extra time ...
Edit: Cant remember if it was exactly 6:55, only one way of the travel to the turtle rolls a day, don't remember which one, but I'm sure you got the idea.

Weird I checked that and didn't think to check both travels! So if I checked well that means that it's the travel the go to the island that consume no time. 5mn to do the trick?

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by Zuvio

Calinda, could you explain your tactic vs the turtle again? Did you use 2xtelekenisis on one thorn hunter to get him before the turtle on round 2 and then catch up with the other thorn? Im trying that strat but the turtle uses aoe before i can get a thon in front of him.

I can't answer for Calindra but perhaps you can use horsemen, at least one, two thorns pack:

• Round 1: Horsemen move closer but still not close, the two thorns move closer, the two long range shoot. Turtle cast mass slow.
• Round 2: Horsemen move close to turtle but don't attack and defend. the two thorns move closer but still aren't close to turtle, the two long range shoot, the turtle attack the horsemen but don't kill it.
• Round 3: Horsemen move back, the two thorns move close to turtle and don't attack, the two long range shoot, the turtle attack one thorn.
• And so on. I don't remember if Thorns act before the turtle or not, if not you'll have to sacrifice a horsemen or use some spell to support.

[Vilk]

Originally Posted by Calinda

Actually I even did the fights in the Old castle, including those mobs summoned by the paintings in there. These fights alone can bring you from 10 to 11, but surely are pretty hard, and some of the few loses that I had are from there.

Arg can't believe, I suspect those fights even tougher than those of the mage test in Alarnia, don't remember.

Originally Posted by Calinda

To have less loses sometimes you have to prolong fights and take some time to resurrect your army.

You wrote "sometimes"? Isn't it more "somehow often"? Ok not during the beginning but later at least.