maximising your leadership

[Writhan]

To my knowledge, the leadership you gain while leveling up, is a fixed value. It's related directly to what level you are, and nothing else.

This is why picking statistics over leadership is prefered at lower levels, and chosing leadership over statistics at later levels are prefered.

Example:

Level 2
1 Attack
40 leadership

Level 20
1 Defense
1800 leadership

You'll have abit rougher start, due to lack of leadership (Unless you're lucky with items), but later on you'll have a stronger character.

[Razorflame]

ah i thought it's based on your leadership and get a % of that :>
thought i had seen somehwere on the forum

[DGDobrev]

Generally, if you want to do a quick victory, it's highly advisable to start taking leadership as soon as possible (like lvl 3, for example), especially on hard and impossible. Besides, you can't pick the leadership upgrade at every level. If you started at 2, you can pick it at the even numbered levels (2-4-6-8-10-12-14-16-18-20-22-24-26-28-30), and if you started at lvl 3, you can pick it on the odd numbered levels (3-5-7, etc., up to 31).

It all depends on how do you want your game to unfold. I personally like to pick leadership as soon as I get it, it allows for quicker victories, even in impossible. For example, right now I'm day 5 (I lost a day traveling, could have been day day 4 but I don't have a precise clock, even though I'm running Nobilis' 1.7 patch) on impossible with a paladin in the mines, killing strong or very strong opponents with minimal or no losses. If I have to wait till lvl 20... It'll take a lot of time.

[Razorflame]

i got same lost a day at traveling too but i haven't taken leadership untill level12



i'm a mage btw :>
playing on impossible too

[Elwin]

Leadership values are fixed, its 40/50/60 * level depend on class

[DGDobrev]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

i got same lost a day at traveling too but i haven't taken leadership untill level12



i'm a mage btw :>
playing on impossible too

As a mage, you have some nice spells to complement your fighting arsenal at start. A good fireball wins many battles in the beginning. As a warrior and paladin, you don't have this luxury

[Zuvio]

Originally Posted by DGDobrev

Generally, if you want to do a quick victory, it's highly advisable to start taking leadership as soon as possible (like lvl 3, for example), especially on hard and impossible. Besides, you can't pick the leadership upgrade at every level. If you started at 2, you can pick it at the even numbered levels (2-4-6-8-10-12-14-16-18-20-22-24-26-28-30), and if you started at lvl 3, you can pick it on the odd numbered levels (3-5-7, etc., up to 31).

It all depends on how do you want your game to unfold. I personally like to pick leadership as soon as I get it, it allows for quicker victories, even in impossible. For example, right now I'm day 5 (I lost a day traveling, could have been day day 4 but I don't have a precise clock, even though I'm running Nobilis' 1.7 patch) on impossible with a paladin in the mines, killing strong or very strong opponents with minimal or no losses. If I have to wait till lvl 20... It'll take a lot of time.

So you did freedom islands in one go than did you? Could you share some insights on your army and tactics and which level you were when you got to the islands? I assume most enemies were strong on the islands for you. Did you lose many troops or virtually none at all? Could you maybe post a savegame of when you just got to the islands? Thanks for your time

[Writhan]

I'm day four, and just visited freedom island. I'm sure its possible to rush to mines, and reach it on day four, if you keep focus on main quest only.

That said, I'm pretty sure you'll hit a brick wall sooner or later (And you'll certainly have to play a mage, as your army will be too weak alone)

[DGDobrev]

I'm not rushing at all I've fully completed all of the areas (greenwort, arlania, velarion, swamps - without enemen, lower/upper haddar) as well as their quests, with the exception of 20% of the islands, since I plan on returning there (probably) sometime and finish up some additional quests - I'm still trying to decide whether I want to play with target + faeries+dryads ... But we'll see. I'm thinking about an undead-based paladin too... since I'll be going towards tolerance by all means.

The mage isn't that powerful actually. On impossible, the game is beatable with a mage, but he'll come to severe problems later on because you'll be low on leadership, and sometimes 2 ice snakes or whatever offensive spell you prefer + soul drain/time back (provided you have it at the start of the battle) isn't enough to alleviate the troop number difference.

I agree that the paladin is very hard to play on hard and impossible, but that's what makes the game rewarding. And I have a hunch that he's not that sucky as most people claim him to be. So far I lose few or no troops in the mines against strong and very strong opponents, depending on their troops (I love that interface plug-in)

[Writhan]

I wasn't aware it was possible to wrap up greenwort and the surrounding areas so quickly. Good job.

I'm currently playing a normal-paladin, and until now, I'm doing fine. I rushed down to +20% experience talent and got lucky with my undead wife (Who's now a human), to have a baby that gave me an additional 10% experience.

Initially I focused on pirates. I had the pirate belt & boots and ... of course the wife, that granted them a total of +2 speed, +1 initiative and +5 attack. Sea dogs and marauders are actually quite powerful with these items in ones possesion. My boots however, seemed to bug at some point. They have morale, and it reached zero. Now, when i supress the boots, they do not gain morale again. So i got upset, and rushed/kited to the demon world, and bought myself an army of demons. After that, I returned to freedom island with my fresh new group of fiery menace.

My paladin feels kind of odd to play. I don't really use nukes. I spend most of my rage on the snake-guy's shield ability, and use the ressurection spell. Both my mage and warrior felt much stronger at this point, if my memory serves me right.