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[Sita]

Originally Posted by Fighterace

Bf-110F (the best of the 110 series)

Why F is best of the series? and btw have you any info about cockpit and ordnance loadout of Bf 110 F ?

[shelby]

Originally Posted by Sita

Why F is best of the series? and btw have you any info about cockpit and ordnance loadout of Bf 110 F ?

http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=111279
http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/...f110F-4-U1.htm
http://www.maquetland.com/article-10...glish-version-
http://germancontrolsticks.blogspot....tt-bf-110.html
http://plane-crazy.k-hosting.co.uk/A...e110/Me110.htm
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=147093

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Sita

Why F is best of the series? and btw have you any info about cockpit and ordnance loadout of Bf 110 F ?

Originally Posted by shelby

http://www.patriotfiles.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=111279
http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/...f110F-4-U1.htm
http://www.maquetland.com/article-10...glish-version-
http://germancontrolsticks.blogspot....tt-bf-110.html
http://plane-crazy.k-hosting.co.uk/A...e110/Me110.htm
http://www.shipbucket.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=147093

That's a no then

[RPS69]

F it's almost the same to G.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by RPS69

F it's almost the same to G.

But do you know for sure?

When engines changed the cockpit could have changed as well. There were probably also little external changes.

This site has some good info on the Bf-110D, E and F series, such as minor external changes.

http://forum.valka.cz/category/view/...mpaign=topmenu

As does this site, including a cockpit picture of the "D0" variant.

http://airwar.ru/enc/fww2/bf110f.html


Other than that, the vast majority of resources for the Bf-110 available on the web relate to the various C or G variants. The D, E, and F series are forgotten by comparison.

The good news is that there is a Bf-110F-2 in a museum (Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin), but so far there are no interior shots available on the web.

[Pursuivant]

I struck gold in my search for good documentation on the Bf-110D, E, and F series.

This site has the original German manuals for installing ventral cannon packs, and the various ETC bomb racks.

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/arch...cmitt%20AG.htm

Absolutely comprehensive technical report for captured unnamed Bf-110 variant, but very likely the D-2, E-2, or F-2 variant since it included a rescue raft compartment and ETC 500 bomb racks. The only weakness in the report - other than not describing the exact variant - is that all armor appears to have been removed from the plane, so no information exists.

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/arch...20Me%20110.pdf

Installing ETC bomb racks on BF-110E:

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/arch...%20Wartung.pdf

R-1 ventral cannon installation for F & G:

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/arch...eiheft%202.pdf

Manual for installation of drop tanks and "dackelbauch" tank for D model:

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/arch...atzanlagen.pdf

Installation of ETC bomb racks on E model:

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/arch...%20Wartung.pdf

Plenty of good pictures here - with Russian captions:

http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft20512.htm

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Sita

Why F is best of the series? and btw have you any info about cockpit and ordnance loadout of Bf 110 F ?

Apparently, the F series had the best compromise of speed, armor, and maneuverability as compared to the rest of the Bf-110 series. It had vastly improved engines, improved armor for the crew, and considerably improved performance over previous models.

For IL2, the big changes are that the D, E, and F series had a slightly longer fuselage and slightly revised cockpit due to added armor glass. Engine profile is similar to that of the C model, except that some versions had the tropical air filters similar to those mounted on the Bf-109F or G.

Internally, it appears that the cockpit was slightly revised to include gauges, selector switches, and indicator lights for the auxiliary fuel tanks, as well as jettisoning equipment for drop tanks and/or bombs. This might make it identical to the cockpit for the G model.

At least for some aircraft, the single flexible rear gun installation was retained, whereas the G model often had a twin gun mount.

D models were mostly used in Norway, with some use in the Mediterranean. The "dackelbauch" version saw limited use during the Battle of Britain, when planes from Norway attempted to raid Scotland. But, they were no match for British fighters. Thereafter, they were used for patrols and convoy protection.

E models were used on a limited basis in Russia, as well as in Europe and North Africa, but they weren't a success and the crews hated them because they were slow and underpowered.

F models were used with some success in Russia, but were gradually withdrawn from the Eastern Front to provide air defense against Western Allied bombing raids. Many were converted to night fighters, or purpose built as such.

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Engine profile is similar to that of the C model, except that some versions had the tropical air filters similar to those mounted on the Bf-109F or G.

Not true for "F". That one already has the engine fairing like the "G"

[cstaunton92]

Hello Sita,
Here's another link (with no sources given):
http://www.jagdgeschwader4.de/index....schmitt-bf-110

It gives some armament info, and suggests the E and F have very similar equipment - except for additional armoured glass.

Also, this picture http:///img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4408..._e8eed409_orig from yt2 seems to have elements of the G cockpit - could that mean it is an F?

[_1SMV_Gitano]

Luftwaffe unit OOBs shows that the F version was widely used, and in general such units had a mix of C/D/E/F variants up to early 1943 when the G arrived in large numbers. I do not have much idea about internal changes, except that the Bf 110F had a DB 601F engine, similar to the DB 601E of the Bf 109 F-4 but with different reduction ratio.

The book "German Aircraft Interiors vol.1" show the very same picture posted above, and the captios says it is a F version. Not sure if it is enough to model it though...