15th winter flying IL2 Sturmovik.

[Skid]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

I think it was JV44 Rall that was always the best and most renowned FW190A pilot, and I remember there was another well-known pilot that was one of the first to start doing "zoom and boom" flying. GR142 Astro and Pipper were two guys who used to get into Yaks and cover each others six so well they would stack kills up at will as long as someone was dumb enough to get low and slow with them, and there were lots of takers. Astro and Pipper did cry a lot when someone Z&Bed them though...

<raises hand>
I was dumb enough!

Wow. GR142 Astro and Pipper. Haven't heard those names in ages. Turnfighting and stallfighting with GR142 Astro and Pipper down in the snow. In a LaGG-3 IT no less. Many, many fights. Got better after a time and lots of deaths. I don't remember the server. JV44 Rall used to drop in quite often as well. I remember the havoc he'd cause. I wonder if it was in MOH_FOX's nightly dogfight server... or some other I flew in nightly while waiting for FOX to start his server.

Skid
AKA MOH_SKID

[dimlee]

I think it was Greatergreen server... There were at least 2 of them, one was with ext views and "non flyable" planes.

[Skid]

No, I don't think it was. I'd flown in Greatergreen but I don't remember doing the low furball thing there. I was flying a 109 by then. External views? Non-flyables? I usually did not frequent servers with those settings.

[Marabekm]

Well I think a few things happened.

The first is most players on hyperlobby now, all want to jump in the cockpit of something with cannons, jam throttle forward and take-off in whatever direction they are pointing. If its more than a 3 minute flight before their guns are firing its to long. Even the bomber pilots are the same way, and there better not be any AAA at enemy targets. Its all about points, and how quickly and easily to get them.

But because these are the majority of players, the servers cater to their wants and needs. And I don't blame the servers. You need fliers, so do what will attract the most players.

Speaking of servers, the so called historical ones are a joke. Did the map builders do their research for missions on these servers? The answer is an apparent NO. But again it comes down to players. There is a common misconception that for aircraft to "balanced" that each side has to use aircraft from same year. And that on say January 1st of 1943, all aircraft referred to as being from 1942 ceased to exist. I really wished there was a way to remove year entirely from aircraft name.

Also a lot of the servers are not updating game to latest version. Choose to be mod friendly instead.

See there a almost no options remaining for the players that 1.) Enjoy flying just as much as combat. and 2.) Like hard settings. 3.) Don't use mods.
So these players have either moved on to something else, or fly offline.

Not trying to tell anyone how to play. Its a game, play however you want.

[Janosch]

Originally Posted by Marabekm

The first is most players on hyperlobby now, all want to jump in the cockpit of something with cannons, jam throttle forward and take-off in whatever direction they are pointing. If its more than a 3 minute flight before their guns are firing its to long.

Fortunately, Hyperlobby is not the whole picture, and several non-cannon planes get their share of playtime, too. Also, there's always at least one player who invests more than 3 minutes into, say, positioning their planes tactically in the vertical matrix. Usually, it's enough to keep things interesting.

Even the bomber pilots are the same way, and there better not be any AAA at enemy targets.

From what I've seen, bomber pilots often ignore the threat of AAA altogether. But they're irrelevant anyway, at least on dogfight servers. Ground pounders who actually destroy AAA, especially on airfields, now that's a different story!

Its all about points, and how quickly and easily to get them.

No, because you can't do anything with points - they are just a byproduct of something else. I think most players are enlightened enough to understand this.

But because these are the majority of players, the servers cater to their wants and needs.

Settings-wise, I think some servers cater to what they imagine players' wants and needs to be. As for maps, having a diverse mapset could be one solution - some maps could be built with a quick action formula, others could have some distance between airfields. Or, you can just have multiple bases on the same map.

[Jumoschwanz]

It is a year later already. I have not flown online at all over the last eight months, having too much fun doing things outside in the sun with friends.

The guy that runs the server I mostly flew on for the last half-dozen or so years has got cancer bad, and that is all I will say about that for now.

Hyperlobby looks more dead than ever. If it and this forum is not taken down for lack of interest this winter maybe I will shoot a few of you down over the next three or four months somewhere while the snow is falling.

S!

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

It is a year later already. I have not flown online at all over the last eight months, having too much fun doing things outside in the sun with friends.

The guy that runs the server I mostly flew on for the last half-dozen or so years has got cancer bad, and that is all I will say about that for now.

Hyperlobby looks more dead than ever. If it and this forum is not taken down for lack of interest this winter maybe I will shoot a few of you down over the next three or four months somewhere while the snow is falling.

S!

Sorry to hear about your buddy.

I just counted 20 servers online. Yet not many players. Gone are the days of 24-32 slots busy all night.

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by dimlee

Sorry to hear about your buddy.]

He is dead now. He was a good IL2 pilot that never flew mods, flew hard settings and was in it since the beginning. RIP....

[dimlee]

2nd server of Greatergreen with non flyables. I have preferred more "realistic" settings as well, but where else you could hunt for B-17 on your Bf-110 . It was before AIs were introduced into online gaming.

[Jumoschwanz]

Originally Posted by Skid

Skid
AKA MOH_SKID

Hi Skid. I remember flying with you here and there when you flew a 109, you seemed like a good smart pilot. Glad you dropped in and hope you are still flying now and then.

I remember flying on the Men of Honor server quite a while ago but not much about it.