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Old 02-06-2016, 07:42 AM
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@Pursuivant,

Do you know this:
http://www.smsp.org/il2/3d_modeling_bible/index.html
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:24 AM
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The IL2 modeling bible has info on creating "surface objects" here:

http://www.smsp.org/il2/3d_modeling_...ceobjects.html

But, it's unofficial, and there is no information about designing buildings or similar objects - just vehicles. More info would be helpful.

I can't make airplanes, but I can do buildings - if I can figure out how to get the skins to look right.
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:34 PM
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I can do buildings - if I can figure out how to get the skins to look right.
it came only with expirience)
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:59 PM
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Well there has been a model mapping issue that has bugged me for a long, long time, it is to do with the mapping of the upper halves of the cannon pods for the Do335 V13. For the most part mapping issues can generally be resolved through clever manipulation of the publicly accessible skins, however in this case the issue can only be solved at the mapping level, I was able to tweak out all the other mapping issues on this skin but there is just no way to tweak out this one.

This is caused by having two differently placed source locations for the mapping of the upper gun pods resulting in each having asymmetric panelling details.
(the lower portions of the pods do not have this issue as they are sourced from the same two locations of the underside of the rear fuselage, from memory).

The chosen locations also tend to create difficulties with matchups of custom paint schemes.

In the following image (1.) you can see on this portion of the skin (tweaked default skin by the way) where the mapping is currently sourced from (Yellow and Green), while the area that I've outlined in red would seem to be a far better candidate for this mapping. I say this because in all the skins that I have looked at this area seems to have the most consistent match regardless of the paint scheme type that has been applied.

1. Portion of skin as seen in Photoshop



2. This is how said skin relates to the model as when seen in the loading screen



Now you're probably wondering how any of the above relates to this particular thread, well any competent modeller could solve this in a matter of minutes, and if a TD member (or anyone else for that matter) would like to fix it then that would be great, however this may also be an excellent exercise for a novice to learn how mapping is related to a model, as it would not require any 3D remodelling or even any changes to the existing default or custom skins to correct.

When I finally do get hold of 3ds Max (I still have to wait for my son to get his student enrollment finalised, which could be another 2 or 4 weeks) I could take a look at doing it myself.
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:28 AM
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any competent modeller could solve this in a matter of minutes
yes .... but only he have that model ... for that need extract it from il ... properly convert in format which 3dmax can use .. and need that what you discribe not only for lod00 ... i think need make similar actions with lod01 and may be lod02 ....

it's not that hard ... if you have model/tools/wish/expirience ...
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Old 02-07-2016, 08:32 AM
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that's why i love make something new... it's always more interesting ... but it's only my opinion ... i know people which love reworking something already exist
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:10 AM
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that's why i love make something new... it's always more interesting ... but it's only my opinion ... i know people which love reworking something already exist
I find the biggest issue when working on pre-existing CAD models is trying to figure out how the original creator built it, in many cases the models that I have had to rework lack even most basic of design intent, assembled with no relationship to the origin or to other assembly components, things of major importance in the SolidWorks environment.

From that aspect I can see why designing from the start can have it's appeal.
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