beyond 4.13

[Sita]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

Maybe Ju-88C6? Or He-111 variants by Yt2?

ju88c6 ai was finished for 4.13 but we could't get him to shoot properly by book ... i mean nose canon mounted with small angle ... some about 5-6 degrees ... so bot's can't use it right ... so it was deleted from 4.13 ...

we can set canon dirrectly forward .. without any angles ... but it's not right .....

[Tolwyn]

I think if you put that in the readme as a concession to the limitations of the game... and make it CLEAR in the read me...

We'll be okay with it.

Let's face it.

You can fly through trees on every map in the game.
AI can see us even when we fly into clouds and change direction.

It's not right. But there ya go.

See what I mean?

Originally Posted by Sita

ju88c6 ai was finished for 4.13 but we could't get him to shoot properly by book ... i mean nose canon mounted with small angle ... some about 5-6 degrees ... so bot's can't use it right ... so it was deleted from 4.13 ...

we can set canon dirrectly forward .. without any angles ... but it's not right .....

[Sita]

in that moment our older friend said that is not good! we must delete it ...

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by Tolwyn

AI can see us even when we fly into clouds and change direction.

I think they can not anymore. At least when fully obscured by clouds I can usually change direction and get rid of them that way. With partial overcast it is near impossible to do so, they almost immediatley and superhumanly spot you leaving the cloud you hid in.

[Tolwyn]

I assure you they can.
Or let me tell you this.
If you and I are flying with no icons/padlock, and you follow me in a cloud.
I can pick any direction and fly away. You won't see me.

The AI always manages to stay with me. ALWAYS. EVERYTIME. It's like the cloud isn't there.

Originally Posted by majorfailure

I think they can not anymore. At least when fully obscured by clouds I can usually change direction and get rid of them that way. With partial overcast it is near impossible to do so, they almost immediatley and superhumanly spot you leaving the cloud you hid in.

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by Tolwyn

I assure you they can.
Or let me tell you this.
If you and I are flying with no icons/padlock, and you follow me in a cloud.
I can pick any direction and fly away. You won't see me.

The AI always manages to stay with me. ALWAYS. EVERYTIME. It's like the cloud isn't there.

Well, this feature needs testing probably. When I resumed my IL2 flights earlier this year (after about 6 years suspension), I noticed that clouds did cover me from AI - sometimes. Probably it depends on distance or angle or else?

[Sita]

AI pilot can't see you in clouds

[Tolwyn]

Originally Posted by Sita

AI pilot can't see you in clouds

Can you expound on this a little?
I'm not being difficult, I promise; but how is it accomplished?

Clouds are static objects in the map; and is this based upon weather?

Is occlusion modeled in the AI now?

I've entered a VERY thick mass of clouds and each time pick a random direction, or I split-S or a lazy-eight, etc. They never fail to "stay on me."

Do they simply stay on you and not SHOOT?

That's not really the same thing as literally "loosing sight of me."

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Sita

ju88c6 ai was finished for 4.13 but we could't get him to shoot properly by book ... i mean nose canon mounted with small angle ... some about 5-6 degrees ... so bot's can't use it right ... so it was deleted from 4.13 ...

we can set canon dirrectly forward .. without any angles ... but it's not right .....

IIRC

The first Bf110 with Bk3.7 was tilted down at an angle then a patch revised this and corrected it to level position.

It worked ok tilted down back then for ground attack.

It was changed to make it a bomber killer with HE rounds instead of tungsten tank openers.

Was the AI the cause for change back then with the Bf110 ?

[ECV56_Guevara]

Greats news Sita, and thank you for the info, as usual you re the channel betwen us and DT. It seems that there will be much nigth figthers action someday. Pity the hungarian pack will not make it...