Damage Model Bug Stomping

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by falconilia

If you fly historical air battles you dont have to worry about 0.50 caliber bullets but for lots of 20mms and some 13mm calliber

Valid points, but one step at a time.

Future tests will determine vulnerability to side and rear attacks, as well as vulnerability to .30 caliber & 20 mm fire.

But, I'm limited by the selection of flexible guns mounted in flyable aircraft. Pe-8 for SHVAK, G4M for Type 99/Oerlikon FF 20 mm.

If anyone can recommend a flyable aircraft with twin .30/.303 caliber or 7.62mm flexible guns in a rear turret, I'd be grateful.

Originally Posted by falconilia

So to minimize your results maybe you should test only vs Axis planes.
You will save time and strength!

I chose .50 caliber as the mid-point in terms of weight of fire, and because the original focus of my test was determining if the FW-190's wing could be broken & its engine set on fire using that caliber of gun.

I might be making a mistake, but I also think that IL2 has "damage thresholds" required to damage certain aircraft parts. I'm guessing that the "damage threshold" classes are .30/.303 caliber & 7.62 mm, .50 caliber/12.7/13 mm, 20 mm & 30 mm. But, they might also be as simple as MG vs. cannon.

In any case, I'm assuming that any plane part which can be broken with .50 caliber/12.7 mm can be broken with rifle caliber MG, and that any part that can't be broken using .50 caliber/12.7mm can be broken using 20mm fire. I'm probably wrong, but further testing will tell.

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Valid points, but one step at a time.

In any case, I'm assuming that any plane part which can be broken with .50 caliber/12.7 mm can be broken with rifle caliber MG, and that any part that can't be broken using .50 caliber/12.7mm can be broken using 20mm fire. I'm probably wrong, but further testing will tell.

That assumption appears to be wrong. Riffle caliber may detach control surfaces on planes on which is enabled, but it won't cut wings.

You can't take out a whole aileron on any fighter, but you can do it on a Bf110, and many bombers. On those planes, rifle caliber will have the same effect.

[RPS69]

Pick a TB3. Lots of gun firing on many directions, and all rifle caliber.
You can also use a Bf110, or a Stuka.

The MG81, is a very fast shooter, and the MG81Z is the same thing, with double fire.