ROF online shenanigan.

[SlipBall]

I think that they are making a grave mistake on this...I believe they will loose 50 to 70% of the sale's that they could of had...I'm out!...and a really dumb idea they have, that will bother me forever.

[Igo kyu]

I'm not interested now.

[Forgottenfighter]

I'm really not trying to knock the team or anything, the idea has its benefits, so long as the game can also be played without an internet connection. Thanks for all the replies so far.

[flyingbullseye]

That's just the problem, you can't play it without an internet connection. There are two huge discussions going on over at simHQ about it and most are not happy. There are a couple that are in support of it, and that's fine but as many are stating this is going to be a bad move. Most there will agree that this is due to pirating, ironicly enough this move may cause the sim to be pirated in much larger numbers to get around the online only connection. Maybe the devs will see the error of their ways with the bad sales and change it in the near future.

Flyingbullseye

[tagTaken2]

Either that, or a crack to play offline will come out, and coincide with a huge jump in sales.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by tagTaken2

Either that, or a crack to play offline will come out, and coincide with a huge jump in sales.

That worries me. If that happens, they will think they have been successful with this. Non-sales they will notice, sales after piracy are still sales, so not a loss to be recognised.

I won't be pirating this, I don't ever, there are too many great old games available for very little money to go that route. Some of the old games are rubbish (or not to my taste, but I suspect it's a combination of that and some being rubbish), but there are some very good ones.

[tagTaken2]

I'm starting to wonder what people mean when they say 'piracy'.

For me, a no-cd crack that I use on my legally purchased cd is not piracy.

Downloading a hacked copy because my legally purchased cd is going to require me to connect to the internet is a bit dubious, but hey, I paid for the game, I'm damn well going to play it.

But for me, as long as I've purchased the game, I haven't technically 'pirated'. That's reserved for people who haven't paid for the game.

Are we even allowed to talk about this here ??

[Feuerfalke]

I never played IL2 on a PC without internet connection and I only flew a few hours offline anyway.


So, no loss for me on either side, compared to most other games I have, especially to IL2.


@flyingbullseye
If you apply a NoCD-Patch, you didn't pirate the game, you just violated the EULA by modifying protected code. Downloading the game is a crime, though, no matter if you own the rights to have a legal copy. (Noticed the term "have a legal copy"? - A downloaded and/or cracked version is not a legal copy in any regard). Depending on the means you download it with, you also give other people access to the file or parts of the file, which is another illegal act.



To the demo-thing:
Since ROF will be a STEAM-release, you can be 99,9% sure that the demo will be released via STEAM, too, just like most other games (most recently Empire:Total War). If you don't want STEAM, there's probably no way to even test the game.

[flyingbullseye]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

@flyingbullseye
If you apply a NoCD-Patch, you didn't pirate the game, you just violated the EULA by modifying protected code. Downloading the game is a crime, though, no matter if you own the rights to have a legal copy. (Noticed the term "have a legal copy"? - A downloaded and/or cracked version is not a legal copy in any regard). Depending on the means you download it with, you also give other people access to the file or parts of the file, which is another illegal act.

Did not know that, thanks.

Flyingbullseye

[_ITAF_UgoRipley]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

...If you don't want STEAM, there's probably no way to even test the game.

I don't know what STEAM is.
Why would one "not want" it ?? Why is it looked at as the pest ? Is it acting as a kind of malware ?

PS: yes, I'm reading their website...