Ammunition power

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by Monguse

Maybe these will help

Weights and Measures
http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/i...g/50_ammo.html

link doesn´t work

Originally Posted by Monguse

WORLD WAR 2 FIGHTER ARMAMENT EFFECTIVENESS
http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/WW2guneffect.htm

I know the site and have some of the infromation from it.

Originally Posted by Monguse

then this one

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2830

Unfortunately this threat doesn´t really explain why those guns where modelled wrong in the first place.

[KG26_Alpha]

Simply ............................ balancing.

[Monguse]

Links fixed

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Simply ............................ balancing.

Sorry, I don´t by that one, there are too many things out of balance in favour of red planes.

If we only stick to the guns, we get an average velocity in m/s of:

Russia: 852,5m/s
Western Allies:794,2 m/s
Red Total: 826,6 m/s

Axis:690,6m/s

So where is the balance?

[Thunderbolt56]

.50's are porked....


Wait a minute...I was having a bad dream, or deja vu...or a vision or something.

I can't answer your question, but here's a link that is informative as well - http://members.tele2.nl/harmstolk/gunpower.htm

[BadAim]

Good grief. Do you people ever give up? Just accept that Oleg is against whatever it is you want and move the Hell on. My kids didn't whine so much when they were two.

Good post emil, i always thought that Blue planes were at a distinct disadvantage now it has been confirmed. Lets hope Oleg fixes it in SOW so that we have a realistic sim.

[T}{OR]

From: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2830

Originally Posted by 310thDiablo

csThor...I understand your point and respect it. This is something that has been asked for many times over several years. As josse said...it's not a time consuming job to do. Evidence was provided years ago to MG. the "mein" shell was added pretty readily to the German planes, we should have had API belting done as well. For those that want to complain about how API would shirft the balance of power or how it was an FM/DM change I say your wrong. Those same people did not complain when the "mein" shell was added. It sure changed things alot in hitting power to German planes.

I have to agree with Diablo here.

You can complain that velocity is porked in favour of Allies, but the actual advantage in-game goes to Blue - by a long margin. Wrong belting and what not else.

The way I see it blue (especialy 190s and 109s) need only one or two shots for their opponent to explode. You might want to complain about that first.

Need proof - just hop over to the WarClouds.

Yes, the balance might have been something which was attempted, but in very odd way. With USAAF suffering the most from wrong .50 cal belting. The velocity values you posted in the first post reflect that balance very well (FM / WM => Belting / Velocity values).