4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[Buster_Dee]

I just wanted to point out that the B-17 and B-24 Sperry ball turret pedals didn't control the turret in the way you suggest. The left pedal moved and was used to adjust range to target, as indicated by the site reticule changing in width. The gunner moved his left foot to adjust the "uprights" as needed to keep the target wingspan framed as the enemy got closer. That "told" the computing sight the rate of closure. Using hand grips, the gunner also kept the target framed laterally, "telling" the computing sight how the target was moving left-to-right, etc. The site also received own-aircraft altitude, own-aircraft speed, and it's elevation and azimuth position with respect to own-aircraft.

The right pedal was a footrest. However, some turrets had a back-up foot switch to fire the guns when failures forced the gunner to disengage the drives and crank the turret by hand. I don't think the Sperry ball had that.

[Pips]

I'd just like to hear of some news from the guys. The last time anything was posted was back in January - 6 months ago!

[Buster_Dee]

Pips, I wish I could give you something useful, but I'm just a modeler. Projects are alive and moving from what I can tell. The B-24D Monguse and I built seems in good shape now, but it requires some new tech due to the peculiarities of turbine-assisted supercharging and semi-automated mixture control found in US heavies. We had not crossed that bridge before. Computing gun and bomb sights have opened their own challenges.

Please bear with us.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Buster_Dee

Pips, The B-24D Monguse and I built seems in good shape now, but it requires some new tech due to the peculiarities of turbine-assisted supercharging and semi-automated mixture control found in US heavies. We had not crossed that bridge before. Computing gun and bomb sights have opened their own challenges.

Please bear with us.

Interesting, as the P 47, which we have had for a very long time, is also turbo-supercharged, and all late US aircraft have the "auto rich" and "auto lean" feature, as do many British aircraft.

I'm guessing this means they have been incorrectly modeled all along?

And thanks to you and Monguse for the tireless effort on that beautiful B 24.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Interesting, as the P 47, which we have had for a very long time, is also turbo-supercharged, and all late US aircraft have the "auto rich" and "auto lean" feature, as do many British aircraft.

I'm guessing this means they have been incorrectly modeled all along?

And thanks to you and Monguse for the tireless effort on that beautiful B 24.

Very good point. I wonder if any of this might have an impact on the P-38 or P-47 as well.

[Buster_Dee]

Shows you why I'm only a modeler lol. I don't think turbine supercharging was ever actually modeled (e.g., no axis for variable adjustment). I don't fly much, but I have the impression that Auto-Rich and Auto-Lean were never really done either. The advantages are high altitude and long range, neither of which is very appealing to the average player. On the other hand, Auto-Lean could really stretch a light fuel load, letting you carry more bombs--provided you know enough to avoid cooking the engines.

I need to get back to my paper airplanes. Lord knows I'm out of my depth here

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Buster_Dee

Shows you why I'm only a modeler lol. I don't think turbine supercharging was ever actually modeled (e.g., no axis for variable adjustment). I don't fly much, but I have the impression that Auto-Rich and Auto-Lean were never really done either. The advantages are high altitude and long range, neither of which is very appealing to the average player. On the other hand, Auto-Lean could really stretch a light fuel load, letting you carry more bombs--provided you know enough to avoid cooking the engines.

I need to get back to my paper airplanes. Lord knows I'm out of my depth here

Most of us probably are I know of maybe a handful on the forums here and elsewhere that truly understand all of the mechanical bits and pieces and how they affect performance. The rest of us have a passing understanding at best.

Laying out some B-24 missions and it's great to hear that development is getting there.

[Royzewic]

Anybody know the release date? I know itis on the way, but do they know when they will give it to us?

[kennel]

Originally Posted by Royzewic

Anybody know the release date? I know itis on the way, but do they know when they will give it to us?

No idea we all need to be patient

[Janosch]

Anybody know the release date?

24th of June, said the little bird. No hurry.