Adding new maps: Which one would be the most useful?

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Different ideas of what a dogfight map are then I guess. My thinking is along the lines of Dogfight1 or 2 where the zone is a small scale version of other maps. I think those are 90x90km but I'd rather see something a little larger at 120x120km with sets for perhaps generic "Asia dogfight" or "Europe dogfight" or maybe even a "Channel dogfight" type setups.

So, basically maps that have some portion of the world scaled down by 5:1 or 10:1, with minimal roads and towns?

It seems like there is demand for three different sorts of maps, 1:1 very detailed maps for authenticity nuts, 1:2 to 1:5 scale "theater" maps to simulate "long range" missions, but with fewer roads and towns, and 1:10 or higher scale "dogfight theater" maps that compress an entire theater into a small area, with even fewer roads and towns.

[IceFire]

Yep. It could save some time if those folks finished their maps for official release.

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

It seems like there is demand for three different sorts of maps, 1:1 very detailed maps for authenticity nuts, 1:2 to 1:5 scale "theater" maps to simulate "long range" missions, but with fewer roads and towns, and 1:10 or higher scale "dogfight theater" maps that compress an entire theater into a small area, with even fewer roads and towns.

I don't know, is there really a need for a dogfight theater map in 1:10 or such?

Proposal for a dogfight map:
Iasi Map, area north and east of and including Iasi.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by majorfailure

I don't know, is there really a need for a dogfight theater map in 1:10 or such?

I have no idea. Someone should make one and see how popular it is. I'd find it a bit weird myself but different strokes for different folks.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by majorfailure

I don't know, is there really a need for a dogfight theater map in 1:10 or such?

Proposal for a dogfight map:
Iasi Map, area north and east of and including Iasi.

Iasi is a dogfight server version of the Bessarabia map. The only difference is that there is a smaller area with cities, towns, and other objects inside of it (as marked by the box).

And yes the area around Iasi works quite well. I built a scenario for that a few years ago when the map became available to us. It really is quite useful.

As for a 1:10 type setup... I'm not sure. I think I'd rather pick a small piece of 1:1 area and use that more generically as the original team had done.

[ElAurens]

I've used Bessarabia as a China stand in, it's a good map and a lot better than many of the early generic DF maps.

[cambaz]

An English Channel map will be superb for dog fighting with Spits and 109 adding some British Shores or Dover like places will be good.

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Iasi is a dogfight server version of the Bessarabia map. The only difference is that there is a smaller area with cities, towns, and other objects inside of it (as marked by the box).

And yes the area around Iasi works quite well. I built a scenario for that a few years ago when the map became available to us. It really is quite useful.

If that IS already the dogfight map, then we need more dogfight maps -I always thought of 10-80x10-80 maps as dogfight maps.
And yes the Iasi map is nice. Enough airfields distributed nearly even about the map, lots of connecting roads, fine looking textures.

As for dogfight maps - it may be worth looking at maps already in the game and adding fictional airfields in positions to make them dogfight-usable.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by majorfailure

If that IS already the dogfight map, then we need more dogfight maps -I always thought of 10-80x10-80 maps as dogfight maps.
And yes the Iasi map is nice. Enough airfields distributed nearly even about the map, lots of connecting roads, fine looking textures.

As for dogfight maps - it may be worth looking at maps already in the game and adding fictional airfields in positions to make them dogfight-usable.

One suggestion was to do much the same thing with the Gulf of Finland map. Draw a couple of boxes (like on Iasi or Odessa) on the map with objects and then clear off everything else. Suddenly this could be a useful map online.

Karelia Isthmus has a high density of airbases and a lot of battles were fought there and also areas south east of Leningrad would be ideal for some of the other battles fought. Multi-year usefulness. Leningrad would not be in either zone... too many objects.

[Juri_JS]

Originally Posted by IceFire

One suggestion was to do much the same thing with the Gulf of Finland map. Draw a couple of boxes (like on Iasi or Odessa) on the map with objects and then clear off everything else. Suddenly this could be a useful map online.

Karelia Isthmus has a high density of airbases and a lot of battles were fought there and also areas south east of Leningrad would be ideal for some of the other battles fought. Multi-year usefulness. Leningrad would not be in either zone... too many objects.

Rise of Flight has an option for mission builders to remove all objects outside the mission area. If such an option could be added by Team Daidalos to FMB, every map could be easily turned into a dogfight map and it could improve the fps on larger maps for people with older PCs.