4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[Juri_JS]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

All you need for map making is Photoshop (or similar program) and a modded game. May be, also some additional small tools, which also available for modders for a long time now. Anyone, who really wants, can build new maps already and can find enough info on how to do it.

One question just out of curiosity, because in the past I've worked professionally with geographic data:

Were the original IL-2 maps also build using SRTM data converted in Mircrodem, or was other data or another methode used?

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Juri_JS

One question just out of curiosity, because in the past I've worked professionally with geographic data:

Were the original IL-2 maps also build using SRTM data converted in Mircrodem, or was other data or another methode used?

I don't know.

I can only say about the Kiev map, in which I took part as a 3rd party dev. It didn't use SRTM data, it's elevation was created manually, using 1930s-40s topographic maps.

[Juri_JS]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

I don't know.

I can only say about the Kiev map, in which I took part as a 3rd party dev. It didn't use SRTM data, it's elevation was created manually, using 1930s-40s topographic maps.

That's what I've always suspected for the older maps that came with the first Il-2 and Forgotten Battles.
Maybe this explains the relief height inaccuracies that can be seen on some of these maps. For example parts of the Balaton map seem to be too flat, especially the Bakony region north of lake Balaton.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Juri_JS

That's what I've always suspected for the older maps that came with the first Il-2 and Forgotten Battles.
Maybe this explains the relief height inaccuracies that can be seen on some of these maps. For example parts of the Balaton map seem to be too flat, especially the Bakony region north of lake Balaton.

But SRTM data isn't perfect either, since it represents the way the world looked ca. 1990-2000 or even later. After WW2, there was a lot of growth and development in the USSR, China and Europe, and even in the Pacific, so you always have to go back to WW2-era maps to make sure that you've got your towns and cities the right size and to be sure that things like reservoirs and coastlines were actually there in the 1940s.

As an example, I believe that the CoD team wasted a lot of effort creating the "footprints" for British towns and cities based on current data, forgetting the fact that the landscape of the UK is incredibly different from the way it looked 75 years ago.

As another example, volcanic eruptions have made some major changes to the coastline of Hawaii and Rabaul since WW2.

[shelby]

i hope to hear some news from these
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=155

[Fighterace]

Originally Posted by shelby

i hope to hear some news from these
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=155

Yes those especially

[shelby]

will 4.13 have new map?

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Juri_JS

One question just out of curiosity, because in the past I've worked professionally with geographic data:

Were the original IL-2 maps also build using SRTM data converted in Mircrodem, or was other data or another methode used?

Thinking about doing a new map? I've been looking into the details myself...

[Juri_JS]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Thinking about doing a new map? I've been looking into the details myself...

My own map building attempts were very disappointing. I once had created a map of the northern Kuriles, but when I first opened it in FMB the scale was completely wrong. The islands were much too small and the hills too high. I was unable to fix the problem and that was the end of my career as a map builder.

[ElAurens]

China.

Nuff said.