Yak-9T - incredible firepower (or maybe incredible tank's lack of armor?)

[Pershing]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

How could he fire 200 rockets in a single sortie? Or did we understood the mission outcome screen incorrectly?

I'm afraid it's only a FBDj's bug. I've looked several players stat pages - most of them have strange figures in section "rockets"
So I still think the "example-guy" shooted only 37-mm gun and 12,7-mm MG..

[JtD]

The Yak-9T carries 252 rounds of ammo, 200 of which hit. FBDj shows it as rockets fired, bug with the database.

I've done similar things, too, 80% hits with the 32 37mm rounds, mean 25 (medium) tanks gone.

[MicroWave]

Originally Posted by JtD

The Yak-9T carries 252 rounds of ammo, 200 of which hit. FBDj shows it as rockets fired, bug with the database.

I've done similar things, too, 80% hits with the 32 37mm rounds, mean 25 (medium) tanks gone.

So what's your verdict on the issue?
Are tanks too soft, is Yak-9T cannon to strong or, perhaps, the cannon is to easy to use and control? Or everything is OK?

The cannon has significant random spread angle compared to other guns. Although, I doubt it makes much of a difference if fired from point blank range which I assume is happening here.

[Pershing]

Originally Posted by MicroWave

So what's your verdict on the issue?
Are tanks too soft, is Yak-9T cannon to strong or, perhaps, the cannon is to easy to use and control? Or everything is OK?

IMHO moving tanks are too soft.

[gaunt1]

Tanks are soft probably due to gameplay reasons. Historically, aircraft were generally useless against tanks (except Ju-87G). But ingame, it wouldnt make any sense that you cant kill tanks at all. So I think this is a compromise between realism and gameplay.

[Furio]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

Historically, aircraft were generally useless against tanks (except Ju-87G).

I don’t want to start a flame war, but this seems to me excessively trenchant. Soviet Union won the war with "useless" Sturmoviks, and RAF fielded equally "useless" Typhoons.


Perhaps it would be a good idea to make some experiments under repeatable conditions. Any volunteer?

[bladeracer]

Originally Posted by Furio

I don’t want to start a flame war, but this seems to me excessively trenchant. Soviet Union won the war with "useless" Sturmoviks, and RAF fielded equally "useless" Typhoons.


Perhaps it would be a good idea to make some experiments under repeatable conditions. Any volunteer?

I think it depends on your definition of "useless". If you mean physically detroying tanks then I would agree.
But I'm sure air attacks were disruptive and damaging to the enemy regardless of whether the tank itself was actually "destroyed".
I think the biggest "effect" though was simply to morale and logistics by forcing the enemy to adapt their movements to allow for potential air attack. Even if the attack never eventuates, or inficts insignificant damage when it does, having to allow for it still burns up vital resources, slows down movement, and affects morale.

[gaunt1]

I think it depends on your definition of "useless". If you mean physically detroying tanks then I would agree.
But I'm sure air attacks were disruptive and damaging to the enemy regardless of whether the tank itself was actually "destroyed".
I think the biggest "effect" though was simply to morale and logistics by forcing the enemy to adapt their movements to allow for potential air attack. Even if the attack never eventuates, or inficts insignificant damage when it does, having to allow for it still burns up vital resources, slows down movement, and affects morale.

This is the truth. Contrary to popular belief, IL-2 was almost completely useless against tanks, it couldnt really do anything against them. However, it was a TERROR against troops, convoys, and light vehicles, and inflicted huge losses to these units. German tankers didnt fear Sturmoviks. Infantry did!

I still think that the only aircrafts that were capable of destroying tanks effectively were the Ju-87G and the Hurricane IID/IV (forgot this one earlier). 20,23 and 30mm guns were unable to even slightly damage them. In theory, the Hs-129B3 was also useful, but it was a poor weapon system in reality.

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