High level bombing questions

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

I missed ?

I hit where I aimed

Its simple 270kph ias @ 3900m = TAS 330kph whats wonder woman TAS got to do with anything just use the bombsite table settings and it works

The bombs dropped in the center of the target that's the way I use the sight and have for years the TAS is correct that's why I hit the middle of the target.

The point of aim is between the 0 and 5 indicator 2.5 being the target center.

Those charts don't take temperature into account, so on a very cold map like Moscow they won't show the right TAS. Wonder-woman view shows the correct TAS.

Since when is 2.5 target center?

Try your technique with a 2x250 FAB load, or a 1x500 FAB in an IL4, or 2x500 FAB in a Pe-2 on the Moscow winter map.

[KG26_Alpha]

Well I hit the target perfectly well every time not using "WW" views TAS reading.

I use the charts and have done for years taking into account the target altitude (elevation) it works for me.

Continue your method and keep missing.

Have fun.

[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Continue your method and keep missing.

Have fun.

No need to get pissy. I tried several planes, several bomb loads, on several maps and I think something is not right. You try one drop and say everything is fine.

OK, let's use your method then:

First track:
IL4, 1x500FAB, Crimea, IAS 270km/h, TAS set to 330km/h according to your chart, dropped from 3930m, took target altitude of 30m into account, dropped at the 2.5 mark above the bubble, aimed for first plane. Result: waaaaaaay long.

Second track:
Pe2, 2x250FAB, Crimea, IAS 270km/h, TAS set to 330km/h according to your chart, dropped from 3930m, took target altitude of 30m into account, dropped at the 2.5 mark above the bubble, aimed for first plane. Result: short enough to not damage the target.

Third track
Pe2, 2x500FAB, Moscow winter, IAS 270km/h, TAS set to 330km/h according to your chart, dropped form 4000m, took target altitude of 90m into account, dropped at the 2.5 mark above the bubble, aimed for middle plane at the far end of the tarmac. Result: way short, no damage to target (destroyed planes at the near end of tarmac)

Tell me what I'm doing wrong.

[Woke Up Dead]

I also replicated the drop you did (Pe2, 2x500FAB, Crimea) and hit my target, so I can confirm that yes, on that map, that plane, that loadout, your method is accurate, if we assume 2.5 above the bubble to be the target center.

[KG26_Alpha]

I guess I have been bombing on instinct and feeling for a long time, as some of the numbers you are quoting seem to be off.

I have a few rules for the bombsites and bomb types, subconsciously I suppose I have learnt the method to apply different loads and conditions for successful bombing without realizing it.

More testing............



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[Woke Up Dead]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

I guess I have been bombing on instinct and feeling for a long time, as some of the numbers you are quoting seem to be off.

I have a few rules for the bombsites and bomb types, subconsciously I suppose I have learnt the method to apply different loads and conditions for successful bombing without realizing it.

Possibly. I try to go by the book and get frustrated with results that are bad but consistently the same: always long with Plane A bomb B, or always short with Plane C bomb D. No matter the book either: your charts, wonder woman TAS, Bombsight Table 2, Thor's book, IL2 Shturman, nothing seems to work for all the soviet planes and bombs.

If you're going by your instinct, I'd bet the IL4 will make you miss since it's a new plane and you may have not flown it much.

[KG26_Alpha]

The initial problem is the sight its self as in HSFX its a smaller zoomed out optic and looks totally different from the stock one in v4.12.1 (HSFX being my main choice, maps etc)

Given that, the IL4 is a perfect example of a plane I have not bombed with until testing in this thread, that said the same problem exists in HSFX as in the stock version, the bombsite remains the same as is the method using it, so any corrections would be the same.

I have dealt with it in the game, as I already suggested, by unconsciously adjusting the sight for the difference without really making a conscious effort and referring to external devices for reference,
I kind of just got on with it.
In some places the settings touch the bombsite tables suggestions and in other areas its off so its inconsistent at its best and just plain wrong at its worst.

I'm not a good candidate for "by the book" testing as I have been at this too long and have probably picked up too many bad habits using bombsites and blowing stuff up

Maybe someone will pop up in here regarding the bomb weighting ............








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