Can TF mods fix antialiasing?

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

I cannot find any evidence that "other aircraft just disappear at certain distances"...furthermore in order for that to be true, it would need to be experienced by everyone. Is it hard to track aircraft, yes. Do the aircraft disappear, no. At least not at a reasonable distance for any possible engagement to occur.

Is not that they disappear per se, its just how the lods work and how the AA or maybe the lack of AA works.When you are near other planes they look right in all aspects, you can hardly see any jaggies if they are up close, but as they move farther away from you their shape is reduced to the point that the aircraft is represented by maybe 2 horizontal lines of pixels for the wings and maybe one short vertical line of pixels for the rest of the fuselage, those lines start to shimmer like crazy.Its easier to see the actual first dot than to keep track of planes when they are in that "shimmering lines representation".Im sure Im not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

[SharpeXB]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

Is not that they disappear per se, its just how the lods work and how the AA or maybe the lack of AA works.When you are near other planes they look right in all aspects, you can hardly see any jaggies if they are up close, but as they move farther away from you their shape is reduced to the point that the aircraft is represented by maybe 2 horizontal lines of pixels for the wings and maybe one short vertical line of pixels for the rest of the fuselage, those lines start to shimmer like crazy.Its easier to see the actual first dot than to keep track of planes when they are in that "shimmering lines representation".Im sure Im not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

Yes, that's what I experience. It's also possible to see another aircraft, barely at long distance at wide zoom but when you zoom in, it's not visible. Maybe the real issue is LOD along with AA

By the way. I do think CoD is just awesome. Don't want to seem negative, but this issue has put me off a bit. A solution would be to use labels but those are such a distraction. It is a gorgeous looking sim.

Added system specs below

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

Is not that they disappear per se, its just how the lods work and how the AA or maybe the lack of AA works.When you are near other planes they look right in all aspects, you can hardly see any jaggies if they are up close, but as they move farther away from you their shape is reduced to the point that the aircraft is represented by maybe 2 horizontal lines of pixels for the wings and maybe one short vertical line of pixels for the rest of the fuselage, those lines start to shimmer like crazy.Its easier to see the actual first dot than to keep track of planes when they are in that "shimmering lines representation".Im sure Im not the only one experiencing this phenomenon.

For what ever reason some people have never experienced what you describe here. That would indicate to me that it is a hardware related but do not know. I am redoing some videos now with my new knowledge of the FPS limiter. I'll try to capture what I see in both game's but it may be boring to most. Simply proving that my system can track AI has no value to anyone else I suppose.

[SharpeXB]

We all have this game so perhaps an example isn't needed, but here's some screenshots
look at the cable running along the top of the 109 which appears as a jagged broken line

then look at the second shot of the Fw190, see how the cable appears solid.

The problem is at a far distance that jaggedness means the aircraft breaks up into blocks and isn't recognizable or sometimes even visible.

It's great that people are working to mod and improve the sim, but this should be their first priority. This is a great looking sim and the modeling work is fantastic, but it's marred by the lack of antialiasing

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by SharpeXB

We all have this game so perhaps an example isn't needed, but here's some screenshots
look at the cable running along the top of the 109 which appears as a jagged broken line

then look at the second shot of the Fw190, see how the cable appears solid.

The problem is at a far distance that jaggedness means the aircraft breaks up into blocks and isn't recognizable or sometimes even visible.

It's great that people are working to mod and improve the sim, but this should be their first priority. This is a great looking sim and the modeling work is fantastic, but it's marred by the lack of antialiasing

Not for me, at a reasonable distance that I would even notice aircraft in the area. You can prove this to your self by flying a mission/give auto pilot the controls'/switch to outside view/using the mouse, distance your aircraft a few miles away from your view using dragging the mouse

[SharpeXB]

Here's some other examples
the first two from CoD you can see the wing vanish as the plane flies away in the distance

in the second example you can see the aircraft even as a small speck that grows as you get closer, it doesn't lose pieces or detail as you see it closer

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by SharpeXB

Here's some other examples
the first two from CoD you can see the wing vanish as the plane flies away in the distance

in the second example you can see the aircraft even as a small speck that grows as you get closer, it doesn't lose pieces or detail as you see it closer

Try my idea in post #10 you will see that the wings remain at a reasonable distance

[SharpeXB]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Try my idea in post #10 you will see that the wings remain at a reasonable distance

Yes, you can use the zoom view to see objects more clearly. But there's also an odd effect, I'd have to make a video to explain. You can sometimes barely see an aircraft at long distance in a wide FOV. When you zoom in to look closer, it vanishes. Zoom out again, it will reappear.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Not for me, at a reasonable distance that I would even notice aircraft in the area. You can prove this to your self by flying a mission/give auto pilot the controls'/switch to outside view/using the mouse, distance your aircraft a few miles away from your view using dragging the mouse

I think it wouldnt be a good way to test the subject like that because the camera even if far away is still linked to the aircraft.I have tried different field of views and while they make a difference in spotting aircraft , they dont solve the phenomenon for me.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

I think it wouldnt be a good way to test the subject like that because the camera even if far away is still linked to the aircraft.I have tried different field of views and while they make a difference in spotting aircraft , they dont solve the phenomenon for me.

It could be done using "next" camera view and so there would not be a link to any single aircraft. The "phenomenon" for you is not game related or I would suffer it as well...aircraft are hard to track at a distance, but if I am sure it is in the area I can usually pick up on it