Hey TD can you look again at the Corsair..

[Black_Sage29]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Are you sure the P-40 accelerates faster? Get out a stop watch, hold altitude, and see what numbers each hits as they fly along.

I fly mostly American planes and I feel the difference. P-47 accelerates faster than corsair. You can test it out yourself if you want

Nice Bearcat, I like fighting in the P-51 more. It's just so damn fast

[Bearcat]

Yeah me too.. but the P-40 is a better gun platform.. it is more stable.. I get less wobblies in the P-40 than the P-51 hece the better gunnery. I am working on trying to tune up my stick settings..

[Snake]

After tuning your stick settings please share with us! I also have MSFFB joystick and I'm still looking for the best settings for it!

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Black_Sage29

I fly mostly American planes and I feel the difference. P-47 accelerates faster than corsair. You can test it out yourself if you want

Nice Bearcat, I like fighting in the P-51 more. It's just so damn fast

Well you made the assertion so I figured you were volunteering to test

[JtD]

Some P-47 have considerably more power than the F4U, they should be climbing and accelerating faster.

I too usually feel that the P-40 is a better gun platform than the P-51, but looking looking at some stats I tend to hit equally well with both.

[horseback]

P-47 had that GE turbosupercharger weighing it down at lower altitudes, especially the non-paddlebladed models; it was my understanding that Corsair squadrons training on the East Coast handled USAAF Jugs pretty easily below 20,000 ft, but not nearly as well at higher alts. Above that line, the turbosupercharger made the Jug's R-2800 much more efficient than the ones in F4Us and F6Fs; Jug pilots, after losing a round at medium heights were known to fly alongside the victors in the blue painted planes, shake their oxygen masks and point up.

Naval Aviators, being smarter than the average bear, would usually refuse the offer.

cheers

horseback

[Jumoschwanz]

I am sure this conversation would not have happened in WWII. The pilots flying the Corsair in Combat would be trained to work together and stay fast and fly smart.

When they screwed up and ended up below Jap fighters then they got shot down like Pappy Boyington and others.

The gamers fly around in the last version of the P47, which is a powerhouse and did have more power than the Corsair in real life, then they fly the late Corsair and cry about it. I am sure that no pilot in WWII ever wanted to do anything to a Jap fighter except to hit it with superior energy and then get away, from the early flying tigers to the end of the war.

So set yourself up in you QMB in any corsair with several thousand feet advantage and see how it goes for you then. If you get into a situation where you are low and slow enough that a zero shoots you up while you are in a dive then you deserve it.

[horseback]

Originally Posted by Jumoschwanz

I am sure this conversation would not have happened in WWII. The pilots flying the Corsair in Combat would be trained to work together and stay fast and fly smart.

When they screwed up and ended up below Jap fighters then they got shot down like Pappy Boyington and others.

The gamers fly around in the last version of the P47, which is a powerhouse and did have more power than the Corsair in real life, then they fly the late Corsair and cry about it. I am sure that no pilot in WWII ever wanted to do anything to a Jap fighter except to hit it with superior energy and then get away, from the early flying tigers to the end of the war.

So set yourself up in you QMB in any corsair with several thousand feet advantage and see how it goes for you then. If you get into a situation where you are low and slow enough that a zero shoots you up while you are in a dive then you deserve it.

I'm pretty sure that Bearcat is not guilty of the sort of naivete you are talking about; the fact is that the Corsair is awfully sluggish and seems to bleed speed very easily, even compared to early-to-midwar models of the P-47, which from comparison reports from wartime pilots who 'bounced' each other as part of their Stateside training/interservice rivalry, just doesn't make sense even if one believes (as I do) that WWII Naval Aviators were better trained and prepared than USAAF pilots of the same period.

The clear consensus was that the Corsair held practically all the cards over the Thunderbolt at altitudes below about 20k ft; quicker (which means acceleration), better climbing and more maneuverable, even after the paddleblades were added to the Thunderbolts. The only real-life advantage the Jug had below 20k was apparently dive acceleration, and as we all know, only a cartoon anvil could dive faster than a Thunderbolt (and cartoon anvils have cr@p zoom climb).

In game, the only obvious advantage the Corsair has over the P-47 is that the cockpit looks better at any altitude, and that just doesn't make sense., since everyone knows that the Army has always been superior to the Navy and Marines when it comes to things like interior design.

cheers

horseback

[JtD]

At WEP, what time does it take an F4U-1A to accelerate from 275 to 550 km/h TAS at 10k feet in game? How long does it take a P-47D22? Both standard loadout, 100% fuel. Just curious, if there's any substance to the claims.