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Old 03-01-2013, 06:39 AM
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I have experienced the same thing. Trying with all realism turned off + playing with keyboard and it's still banking right.

My input indicator shows that my rudder is constantly trim to the right.
I've tried to reset it back to neutral position but it keeps going back to the right.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:53 AM
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real life is like that

it banks right cause the huge propeller is spinning left

why dont you try a twin engine plane? no gyro effects there
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:40 AM
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I think that Hurricane end with a problem that happened with Blenheim in the first version of game.

Their rudder, centered, is adjusted a bit to right, see:



Pictures with F8 camera view. Rudder and rudder trim centered.
In right a Spitfire, with a centered rudder.

Easy to notice if you put the plane in Autopilot, put the camera in F8 and disable the Autopilot, the rudder goes right.

You can counter this with key commands (Need assign key to this in Aircraft).

"Right (or left) rudder one notch".

Two or tree taps to left put Hurri "on rails".

The downsize of this is that every time you use joystick rudder (pedal or twist) this adjust is zeroed and rudder goes right (centered position for game).
People with rudder pedal with programing software - CH, Saitek(?) can made a profile for Hurricane with a adjust to compensate this.

BTW - I dont know if this rudder adjust to right is "historical"...

EDIT - I test this with no axis mapped for rudder and joystick unplugged, same result.

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Old 03-11-2013, 09:25 AM
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I think that Hurricane end with a problem that happened with Blenheim in the first version of game.

Their rudder, centered, is adjusted a bit to right, see:

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Not only the rudder, also the flaps are in a "bank to right" position when centered. I have many doubts that this is historical, but I'm sure that it's very annoying.
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:57 AM
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Something more: Yesterday night I could finally find a joystick setting to get a straight direction of flight. But the Hurricane was slightly heading upward, so I adjusted the elevator trim. As soon as I did that, the plane was banking right again
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Old 03-14-2013, 05:54 AM
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It's all related, change one variable rudder, pitch, power etc and you will have to re trim the plane.

Remember that the hurricane and spitfire are trimmed on the ground for cruise settings. I find that it shouldn't roll too much at 2650rpm 4 and half lb boost.

Any more boot than that and it will roll.
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:05 PM
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I'd just like to chip in and say that I have the exact same issue as the original poster.

- All planes bank right with joystick (a new cyborg fly 5) or with keyboard when the stick is unplugged
- Joystick is OK in other games and in windows settings.
- Happens with full realism and zero realism settings
- Isn't torque (I certainly get that pulling left when the setting is enabled)
- removed and re-installed the game but did not help. Also uninstalled my Razer Nostromo in case it was interfering but no joy.

I'm new to the game and learning on a 109 (always loved that plane!) which has no rudder trim so the only solution I found was one or two taps of the rudder notch left button or to hold a constant left pressure (tiring after a while!)

If there is a solution out there I'd really love to hear it, as it would increase my enjoyment of the game greatly.

Thanks in advance!
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:56 AM
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real life is like that

it banks right cause the huge propeller is spinning left

why dont you try a twin engine plane? no gyro effects there
Why turning off the "gyro effect" in the option doesn't disable this effect then?
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:05 AM
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Raaid: I understand the basic principles of the physics involved and as I understand it the prop actually turns clockwise (from cockpit). I would then expect it to bank left, not right. And as gato mentioned, this happens with or without gyro effects checked.

Interesting spot regarding the rudder being off centre! I'll check that out, I'm not sure its that which is causing my issue though. Reason being that when I use rudder it doesn't tend to bank the plane at all, its stays flat and simply turns in the relavent direction. Definitely worth a try though, thanks.

To anyone who doesn't suffer this problem, may I ask a favour? I would like some screen shots from the cockpit, straight ahead and looking down one click if that makes sense. Reason I ask is that I want to compare the angle of the control stick. I can then match the res and compare them directly with mine to see if my suspitions are correct!

Cheers chaps.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:12 PM
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yeah sorry actually i remember once the rudder fully deployed without imput, what i did is reset the controls with and old conf
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