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Old 02-17-2013, 09:31 AM
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that tbf. the military industrial complex forms an integral part of the economy. not as simple as "cut the defence budget".

besides, being the biggest kid about means every little crackpot wants to have a go, so you kinda need the defence spend.
True, but never receive a ROI on military goods, you spend on their production, and again on the operation of those items. All you get in return all some dead towelheads.
Even worse, a lot of the expensive components are made outside the US which is excellent for your trade deficit.

On the other hand the infrastructure in the US could use some attention, powerlines, fibretechnology, bridges public roads etc. Oddly enough there seems to no cash left for those - although it would improve wealth, support growth and even rewards you with a ROI.

Seriously - wtf? There seems to an issue with setting priorities right.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:10 PM
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No one, without exception is ever denied medical care in the US. You can walk into anty emergency room in the US and they have to treat you. I have been in several other countries in the world where that is not the case. The so called National Health care these nations have is pathetic. If you are a MD and you earn the same or nearly the same amount weather you see 8 patients a day or 24 how hard would you work ?
but is that the same level of care that visiting heads of state get?
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True, but never receive a ROI on military goods, you spend on their production, and again on the operation of those items. All you get in return all some dead towelheads.
Even worse, a lot of the expensive components are made outside the US which is excellent for your trade deficit.

On the other hand the infrastructure in the US could use some attention, powerlines, fibretechnology, bridges public roads etc. Oddly enough there seems to no cash left for those - although it would improve wealth, support growth and even rewards you with a ROI.

Seriously - wtf? There seems to an issue with setting priorities right.
it's how the system is, and a radical rethink and reorganisation would meet with powerful lobbyists to knacker or neuter it.
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Old 02-18-2013, 01:17 PM
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[QUOTE=MD_Titus;497628]but is that the same level of care that visiting heads of state get?


No, nor should it be. Health Care is not a constitutional right, it is only an entitlement when/if you qualify for Medicare or Mediaid.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:10 PM
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True, but never receive a ROI on military goods, you spend on their production, and again on the operation of those items. All you get in return all some dead towelheads.
Even worse, a lot of the expensive components are made outside the US which is excellent for your trade deficit.

On the other hand the infrastructure in the US could use some attention, powerlines, fibretechnology, bridges public roads etc. Oddly enough there seems to no cash left for those - although it would improve wealth, support growth and even rewards you with a ROI.

Seriously - wtf? There seems to an issue with setting priorities right.
Swiss, Dont start trying to teach these types common sense, your wasting your time. They should be considered highly functional mentally challenged!!
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The administration IS the government. And only defense contractors benefit from the spending. If we spent as much as the next inline country we could payoff our debt in 10 years. We dont need a global empire we cant pay for and it makes the USA look bad sticking our nose in other countrys business.

The USA is not threatened by any country. We spend as much as the next 11 combined which is crazy, no wonder we are in so much debt. Cut the defense budget in half and put it towards the debt.
The current administration are are elected officials and only a miniscule part of the US Government. For the most part they offiscate the US Constitution and are constantly at odds with the conservative congress. Entitlements make up the largest share of the Fed. budget . Federal and State government waste more money than we ever have spent on defense. Ballance the fed and state and reduce entitlements all unproductive overhead and spend more on defense.
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The current administration are are elected officials and only a miniscule part of the US Government. For the most part they offiscate the US Constitution and are constantly at odds with the conservative congress. Entitlements make up the largest share of the Fed. budget . Federal and State government waste more money than we ever have spent on defense. Ballance the fed and state and reduce entitlements all unproductive overhead and spend more on defense.
really? i know i dont live there. but seeing it from the outside your comment make no sense at all! .
why you think drones or bombs are more valuable for the "coomon guy" than a good public health/education?
if you just spend half of the military money in education or health you could have the best public health/education of the world.
what good you get from bombs and drones???
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really? i know i dont live there. but seeing it from the outside your comment make no sense at all! .
why you think drones or bombs are more valuable for the "coomon guy" than a good public health/education?
if you just spend half of the military money in education or health you could have the best public health/education of the world.
what good you get from bombs and drones???
The US has the best health care system in the world and its private venture, every head of state comes to the US when they need the best , in addition our higher education system is far and away the worlds best, look up the top 10 universities in the world related to sceince and math.
The goverments job is to protect its citizens, and get out of the way after that.

Governments do not create wealth they just redistribute it as they see fit.
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The US has the best health care system in the world and its private venture, every head of state comes to the US when they need the best , in addition our higher education system is far and away the worlds best, look up the top 10 universities in the world related to sceince and math.
The goverments job is to protect its citizens, and get out of the way after that.

Governments do not create wealth they just redistribute it as they see fit.
if you can afford it tbf.

would have to take into account all outcomes from medical intervention across the whole price spectrum, rather than just the absolute best for the absolute most.
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if you can afford it tbf.

would have to take into account all outcomes from medical intervention across the whole price spectrum, rather than just the absolute best for the absolute most.

No one, without exception is ever denied medical care in the US. You can walk into anty emergency room in the US and they have to treat you. I have been in several other countries in the world where that is not the case. The so called National Health care these nations have is pathetic. If you are a MD and you earn the same or nearly the same amount weather you see 8 patients a day or 24 how hard would you work ?
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