New Mod Heroes of Might and Magic 3 Babies!

[tolknaz]

Aside from a bit of a confusing name, it seems like you've created a really nice mod (and definately more than just a micro-expansion). I was just planning on playing through both Legend and Crossworlds once again. Might as well install your mod to spice things up. Is it compatible with the interface mod by the way (or does it include similar tweaks)?

[MattCaspermeyer]

Originally Posted by tolknaz

Aside from a bit of a confusing name, it seems like you've created a really nice mod (and definately more than just a micro-expansion). I was just planning on playing through both Legend and Crossworlds once again. Might as well install your mod to spice things up. Is it compatible with the interface mod by the way (or does it include similar tweaks)?

Unfortunately, I do not have the interface mod, but I'm pretty sure it's not compatible.

It'd actually be nice to be able to look at that mod to be certain, so if you have it, could you please post it to this forum topic as it is no longer available - thanks!

I do have some improved information, especially on the spell hints, and new children, but not as extensive as the interface mod, which does sound like it has some good stuff (like listing the item sets and other things like that).

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[tolknaz]

One place i found interface mod (and some other old mods) available is:

http://spammmods.narod.ru/kb

The files with eng in the name are for english version.

Edit: posted the link in the other thread too.

[Fatt_Shade]

After no idea how long playing this mod, and hoping for kids i need to be compatible with units/items i have at disposal in my playthrough i finally got idea how to get kids i want
It`s hard spoiler , but it`s nice way to test ALL kids in 1 game for functionality and bugs.

I play paladin game, and with high lds gain/lvlup i want unit specific kids, not some intellect/spell bonus and with Orcelyn i got Merist, Bogarius, Crag Hack and Tiva. Great kid is Crag Hack , Boragus, and Merist noting special, but Tiva was total miss

SPOILER : after getting some kid you dont like simply edit that kid with one you want in 2 mod files. So in orcelyn_babies.txt i just replaced names for Tiva and Gurnisson , and did same in eng_homm3_babies_orcelyn.lng . Game will replace mechanic for those 2 kids in already started play , and you can do this with all 4 kids to make your dream team

For fun i changed to Diana, and took Piqueram , Thane , Dracon and Kalt. Play with 2x4000 thorn archer/thorn warrior , and 60 royal thorns with black thorn crown is interesting like hell. Only problem is i have no idea how to defeat Xeona with her fire rain spamming

Have fun ppl

[MattCaspermeyer]

Well that's just cheating (shakes head disapprovingly)!

For that matter, you can do that with items, skills, and spells.

You know, there's an even easier way if you're restarting: Just edit WIFES.TXT and remove all the kids from the wife's baby list except for the 4 that you want! Remember, you didn't hear that from me, though...

Your way is a good way to try out different kids if you're already in game though, but this all sounds a bit like Gattaca to me...

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P.S. Who are your wife kid dream teams?
P.P.S. Which kids have your favorite pictures? I always liked Shiva, Solmyr, Jenova, Adelaide, and Sandro.

[Fatt_Shade]

Why cheating ? I already finished that play, and have save file with every wife with 4 kids. Just wanted to see how high bonuses can go for each wife/kid combo, for brute force or high spell dmg and so on.
In Ap part of forum on one tread impy played 100% spell dmg game, and got his intellect around 90+. So i wanted to see what tomes would be interesting to have when you finish mod ToMM for Ap/Cw. And from there just started playing with babies files and checking different combinations.

As for mechanics for cheating i know about items/spells/runes etc , but when you already get kid in game it impossible to change it from IN game, you have to changed files outside. And for your idea to get desired kids by deleting all others, it`s OK for starting new game, not one already playing.
Again i finished your mod with all 3 classes, on imp with 0 losses with no cheating, and now i wanted to see what are possibilities for Ap/Cw without losing to much time with starting new game and hoping to get what i need. Just load my save with certain wife and start cheating my end game stats to see what would be possible

And as for my wife/kid dream team for paladin play (because huge leadership and ridiculous army size), either :
1) Neoka + Aeris / Monere / Pasis / Josephine. All sprite team with anga`s ruby + poison dagger/whip of pain dmg, and druids/inquisitors + ancient ents for support.

2) Diana + Piqueram / Thane / Dracon / Kalt. Thorn, thorn warrior, royal thorn, ancient ent and dryad dryad with (my modified - i changed it so it gives 80% dmg to 1st lvl plants, 30% to 4th lvl and 15% to 5th lvl so it help plant team, not just thorns) blackthorn crown as main dmg item (with my end game stats i had when finished paladin play i calculated i would have 8500-9000 thorns , 150 royals and 40 ancient ents Dmg is hilarious.

3) Mirabella + Sorsha / Tyris / Roland / Catherine. Swordman, guardsman, horseman, knights and inquisitor/archmage for support. Moral +5 to all humans (crit% is very high), huge number of physical troops (this is both good and bad), good physical resistance for melee clashes.

This is just some idea. But ofc for mage wife/kid dream team would be different.
Surprisingly best wife combo for mage class is Diana , who can give you kids with total 108% spell bonus, which is ridiculous
Rina have worst kids for mage class

Just expl what would be doable in Ap/Cw with good luck in tomes department (this was with Xeona + Zydar / Malekith / Ash / Xyron combo and 92 intellect hero , i cheated for testing purposes) :

[MattCaspermeyer]

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

Why cheating ? I already finished that play, and have save file with every wife with 4 kids. Just wanted to see how high bonuses can go for each wife/kid combo, for brute force or high spell dmg and so on.

Well, I was mostly kidding - mostly!

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

As for mechanics for cheating i know about items/spells/runes etc , but when you already get kid in game it impossible to change it from IN game, you have to changed files outside. And for your idea to get desired kids by deleting all others, it`s OK for starting new game, not one already playing.
Again i finished your mod with all 3 classes, on imp with 0 losses with no cheating, and now i wanted to see what are possibilities for Ap/Cw without losing to much time with starting new game and hoping to get what i need. Just load my save with certain wife and start cheating my end game stats to see what would be possible

Yep - your way is the way to go to see what's possible, which is quite fun to see how good it can get. I still disapprove!

I'm not sure if it will be any easier with my AP / CW H3T mod since the heroes of HOMM3 are now grouped by their class and you'll cycle through picking from each group. Depending on how many battles you fight, you may only get 24 or so tomes a game - that's 2 to 3 heroes per group. But on the bright side, you'll be able to combine tomes from any group.

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

And as for my wife/kid dream team for paladin play (because huge leadership and ridiculous army size), either :
1) Neoka + Aeris / Monere / Pasis / Josephine. All sprite team with anga`s ruby + poison dagger/whip of pain dmg, and druids/inquisitors + ancient ents for support.

2) Diana + Piqueram / Thane / Dracon / Kalt. Thorn, thorn warrior, royal thorn, ancient ent and dryad dryad with (my modified - i changed it so it gives 80% dmg to 1st lvl plants, 30% to 4th lvl and 15% to 5th lvl so it help plant team, not just thorns) blackthorn crown as main dmg item (with my end game stats i had when finished paladin play i calculated i would have 8500-9000 thorns , 150 royals and 40 ancient ents Dmg is hilarious.

3) Mirabella + Sorsha / Tyris / Roland / Catherine. Swordman, guardsman, horseman, knights and inquisitor/archmage for support. Moral +5 to all humans (crit% is very high), huge number of physical troops (this is both good and bad), good physical resistance for melee clashes.

Those are some pretty good ones!

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

This is just some idea. But ofc for mage wife/kid dream team would be different.
Surprisingly best wife combo for mage class is Diana , who can give you kids with total 108% spell bonus, which is ridiculous

Yep - Diana can be super awesome with mage (that's why most of her babies are Genies and Elementals in HOMM3).

Originally Posted by Fatt_Shade

Rina have worst kids for mage class

Yah, I think that is partly because she has the lowest level modifiers. I'm not sure if I'll be able to implement it, but after I get my AP / CW H3T mod done, I'll understand a lot better how to do the upgrades (maybe even add Morale) to the children so that their bonuses can increase if you decide to stick with them after a certain number of fights. That would level the playing field and also reward you for sticking with the earlier wives.

The Rina Dream Team would be: Death Haart, Vokial, Tamika, and Moandor if you're Pally because of -Leadership, etc. to Bone Dragons, Vampires, BlackKnights, and Necromancers. You also get the +24% to Spirit and Battle experience from Moandor (which is awesome for such an early child), +6% Melee Damage and +1 Poison Damage (awesome!) from Tamika, +24% Damage to Ranged Damage with Vokial for your Necromancers, and an additional -6% Undead Leadership Requirement with Death Haart.

So she's still got a dream team!

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