Need your opinion about IL2 planes

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by MaxGunz

Just to fly? Try a Yak-1 or Hurricane 1. A pilot with less hours in type could do better in either than in a 109.

irl yes, in game no. Yak has a nasty handling on landing, and constant aileron correction due to torque and combat power, and the Hurri has quite a nasty stall/spin in game, whilst the 109 is benign in every way really.

[KG26_Alpha]

I dunno about 109 being the "easiest", keeping the ball centred requires constant rudder input.

The Migs and Yaks Hurris are simple to get on with and all P series aircraft fly straight and require little correction to trim, managing the P-51 is easy with 25% or less fuel.

P40 is a ace maker and nice to learn to fly in .

[gaunt1]

I'd recommend the He-111 first. Its the easiest aircraft to fly, and its great for practicing takeoff and landing. Amongst fighters, La5/7 is also great for beginners.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

I'd recommend the He-111 first. Its the easiest aircraft to fly, .

Touch a nerve did I

[OverDhill]

Well here is the first draft of my touchscreen setup for IL-2. It is using UDP Speed for the gauges and Helios for the controls.

[MaxGunz]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

irl yes, in game no. Yak has a nasty handling on landing, and constant aileron correction due to torque and combat power, and the Hurri has quite a nasty stall/spin in game, whilst the 109 is benign in every way really.

That's because you shouldn't be using ailerons to keep your wings level at takeoff or landing speed. You should be using your rudder to stay level.

The reason the plane wants to roll is the change in propwash from change in power and speed along with nose-high pitch putting the tail deeper into the wash.
Rudder Away From The Wing That Drops. It only takes a little, honest.

You didn't have to do that in for instance EAW. I remember showing a long time pilot friend and he was like "what???". After a while I got to learn that side-stick at such close to stall speeds is an IRL formula to crash.

WHY? Because when you use your ailerons you are increasing the AOA on the wing you want to lift and decreasing it on the wing you want to drop. Close to stall is having BOTH wings close to stall AOA so what's going to happen when a wing is going down and you increase the AOA of that wing? Answer, even if you don't stall that wing right then the drag on it increases even as the drag on the other decreases. That slows the wing you wanted to lift, yaws your plane (you might even notice but apparently be puzzled) into slip and as you horse on more side-stick stalls the wing.

Hmmm. You can fly a stall if you keep from slipping/skidding/crabbing/wtf-you-want-to-call-it-when-the-nose-isn't-pointing-where-you're-going but the formula is Stall + Slip = Spin which is just what you get using side stick to stay upright near stall.

Yak-1 is beautifully light and easy to fly as is the Hurricane if you fly them right.

OverDHill; are you trying to learn about flying for real or to game better?

[OverDhill]

Just in it for a game... to have some fun that's all....

[OverDhill]

By the way is there any MODS worth dropping on top of the HSFX package to improve the graphics or sound even more (and still be online compatible). I am pleasantly surprised at how much great work is being done to support this game and grateful to all those that have contributed their efforts.

OverDhill

[CWMV]

Its a good starting point, but it has several incompatibilities though.
Try adding UV3 for sounds, as to other mods they really are subjective.
Here is the be all, end all source for IL2 mods. Have fun.
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php

Im really waiting for this one...
http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.ph...c,28639.0.html

[K_Freddie]

I'd say start with the IL2 itself - It's very docile on takeoff/landing and nice to do some ground bashing with, and it's a killer if some axis plane is fool enough to get in front of you.
Plus it give's one an idea of what the Eastern front air battles were all about