Need your opinion about IL2 planes

[OverDhill]

Thanks for the replies

Well I guess it sounds like the 109 is the place to start. And yes I want to learn how to fight as well as fly. I have to pick out some rudder pedals. I have heard some people start out using the twist stick but then later get pedals and have a hard time adjusting.

Any suggestions on some good sturdy ones? The CH Product ones look good but I think they are too close together for my taste.