4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[stugumby]

if the objects list in fmb is now by name and not number, will this effect previously made missions?

[Buster_Dee]

Soooooo saweet!!! Masters of their craft

[Pfeil]

Originally Posted by stugumby

if the objects list in fmb is now by name and not number, will this effect previously made missions?

It shouldn't. The names/numbers used in the interface are not the ones actually saved to the mission file.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by stugumby

if the objects list in fmb is now by name and not number, will this effect previously made missions?

It's just an abstraction... similar to what already happens to aircraft. So probably not. TD is very good at not breaking old stuff as much as possible.

[Anders_And]

I would like to see a video with more of the smoke effects and tracer effects in 4.12. After these things have been addressed its time for a major sound rework. The game has been in business for 12 years but the original sounds are still there..

They shoud talk to tiger33 about his flyby sounds over at SAS. They really take the game to a new level!!

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by Anders_And

They shoud talk to tiger33 about his flyby sounds over at SAS. They really take the game to a new level!!

Implementing sound files without save copyright issues could bring us into trouble. Creating quality sounds from scratch on the other side is out of our abilities. Most mod sounds are 'borrowed' somewhere.

[FlyingShark]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Implementing sound files without save copyright issues could bring us into trouble. Creating quality sounds from scratch on the other side is out of our abilities. Most mod sounds are 'borrowed' somewhere.

Maybe, if enough interest from the others and a bit late for the comming update but for the future, a return to the sound of the original IL2 Sturmovik forgotten Battles before it got patched. It was basically the same sound as we have but much deeper. People who still have that sim should reinstall it and let any plane fly by, you'll hear what I mean.

~S~

[Luno13]

Originally Posted by FlyingShark

Maybe, if enough interest from the others and a bit late for the comming update but for the future, a return to the sound of the original IL2 Sturmovik forgotten Battles before it got patched. It was basically the same sound as we have but much deeper. People who still have that sim should reinstall it and let any plane fly by, you'll hear what I mean.

~S~

It has weird echo effects though. I think FB's sound, although not awesome, is an improvement.

[ilmavoimat]

Quick question,
Re the user interface. Is the 90 degree rotation to vertical view an option or will it be fixed. With a non wide-screen screen it will really chop down the viewing area. Really looking forward to it though!

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Implementing sound files without save copyright issues could bring us into trouble. Creating quality sounds from scratch on the other side is out of our abilities. Most mod sounds are 'borrowed' somewhere.

I don't understand the difficulty. You keep the sounds you've got, but officially allow people to make their own add-on sound packs - like is currently the case for speech packs. In that case, DT and 1c aren't liable for individuals' choice to violate copyright. Problem solved.

Alternately, you work with talented outside sound creators with the stipulation that any sounds they provide must be free of copyright. There's enough copyright free stuff out there that it isn't a limitation.

Finally, copyright for sounds seems to cover music and spoken word recordings, rather than sound effects. As an example, some years ago a U.S. court threw out Harley-Davidson's attempt to copyright the distinctive sound of its motorcycle engines.

Courts in the U.S. also seem to be somewhat favorably inclined towards "sampling" sounds as long as the work isn't entirely copied and it is altered in some substantial fashion. For example, while you might get sued for using the exact tune as the default Windows 7 start-up sound, it would be fair use to incorporate a snipped, sampled or altered version of it in a larger work.

So, even in the unlikely event that someone comes after DT for sampling their recording of a Merlin engine, as long as the original sound was snipped, altered and re-looped in some way, they have no standing.