the failure of clod is a failure of US ALL

[ATAG_Bliss]

I just call it like I see it. You are 777's new minion. Have fun with that.

[Jatta Raso]

i bought the game even before it launched
i went with the after release development all along
i kept positive attitude in here, helped ppl with issues whenever i could
i kept playing in ATAG in spite the issues

i didn't fail.

neither did WE as a supporting community.

no pal. 1C FAILED US. they finally faced the truth that their product is beyond repair, doesn't even provide for a decent platform for future releases. which is a shame really, realising the many things it does right.

p.s. - cargy and david haywort, don't commit suicide just yet!!! 1C might be back with 777 and make it work, who knows!!

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

i bought the game even before it launched
i went with the after release development all along
i kept positive attitude in here, helped ppl with issues whenever i could
i kept playing in ATAG in spite the issues

i didn't fail.

neither did WE as a supporting community.

no pal. 1C FAILED US. they finally faced the truth that their product is beyond repair, doesn't even provide for a decent platform for future releases. which is a shame really, realising the many things it does right.

p.s. - cargy and david haywort, don't commit suicide just yet!!! 1C might be back with 777 and make it work, who knows!!

This illustrates the mindset very well, a complete inability to think beyond themself and not include themselves in a collective, and the very small attempt to mention a collective was wholly innacurate, here there was NO SUCH THING as a supportive community here, there was an element of people willing to be patient but don't go mistaking paying money as complete support, once some people parted with that cash they though they bought a licence to kick Luthier in the face, it was going to take some years of sales to recoup development cost of something like COD, but once 1C saw the whining they knew the return was unlikely, because no matter what they tried to fix there was some other a'hole ready to lay the boot in over another issue, mainly over features people wanted but ironically these same people can live quite happily without those things now 777 are developing a sim.....go figure.

I would really like to see hard evidence of this alleged 'broken code' that could not be repaired, obviously the initial release was a mes but the subsequent engine fix gave us (most of us) a pretty stable sim that still looked better than anything else, certainly more than we can expect with the new BOS (yet people are practically crapping themselves with excitement over the lack of features being promised by BOS).....

'we are going to build a new sim with absolutely no fancy features based on an old DX9 engine but it will work out of the box'

'yayyy!!! were getting a featureless blandfest with nothing fancy but satisfies our entitlement to instant gratification'

Well it better bloody work out of the box, theres absolutely NO excuse for bugs on an engine released in 2009.....oh wait!

[furbs]

If all of that balls is true Bongo then...

why are there 10x more people still playing IL2?

why did Luthier say himself they couldn't fix it?

Why has it been cancelled?

I mean, Luthier must of shown the years work on the sequel to the people who pay his wages, if that work was great and the fixes he said were coming were done, why did they fire him?

Was there a agenda from every country where COD was released, Germany, Russia, France, the US?

[bongodriver]

why are there 10x more people still playing IL2?

You really can't figure it out? 10 years worth of time as a released game opposed to just 1.5

why did Luthier say himself they couldn't fix it?

I'm sure you'll find the quote and I'm equally sure it was probably taken out of context if it happened

Why has it been cancelled?

Did you read all that balls I wrote?

I mean, Luthier must of shown the years work on the sequel to the people who pay his wages, if that work was great and the fixes he said were coming were done, why did they fire him?

1c's fingers were on the trigger and getting itchy, ultimately the work Luthier needed to do was going to cost more money and thats why they fired him.

[furbs]

Yep, and bugger all to do with anything written on this forum or the french, German or Italian or Russian forums.

COD just didn't sell enough.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by furbs

If all of that balls is true Bongo then...

why are there 10x more people still playing IL2?

why did Luthier say himself they couldn't fix it?

Why has it been cancelled?

I mean, Luthier must of shown the years work on the sequel to the people who pay his wages, if that work was great and the fixes he said were coming were done, why did they fire him?

Was there a agenda from every country where COD was released, Germany, Russia, France, the US?

IL2 is STILL after 11 years the king of WWII flight sims.. for all the same reasons that a fact 5 years ago. CoD is a thing of beauty in many ways and hope that the best of it can be brought to BoS ... I have nol idea what Bos will be like and now that I can I want to get more into CoD to raise my level of expectation but for me IL2 is still the king and if BoS does everything that IL2 does 15% better with the same possibilities as far as the engine goes I will be happy. If we can get the CoD level of graphics and CEM or close to it.. it doesn't have to be exact.. but if it looks AT LEAST like WoP and flies like a best of IL2/Cod I will be happy.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

IL2 is STILL after 11 years the king of WWII flight sims.. for all the same reasons that a fact 5 years ago. CoD is a thing of beauty in many ways and hope that the best of it can be brought to BoS ... I have nol idea what Bos will be like and now that I can I want to get more into CoD to raise my level of expectation but for me IL2 is still the king and if BoS does everything that IL2 does 15% better with the same possibilities as far as the engine goes I will be happy. If we can get the CoD level of graphics and CEM or close to it.. it doesn't have to be exact.. but if it looks AT LEAST like WoP and flies like a best of IL2/Cod I will be happy.

PM sent.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by furbs

If all of that balls is true Bongo then...

why are there 10x more people still playing IL2?

why did Luthier say himself they couldn't fix it?

Why has it been cancelled?

I mean, Luthier must of shown the years work on the sequel to the people who pay his wages, if that work was great and the fixes he said were coming were done, why did they fire him?

Was there a agenda from every country where COD was released, Germany, Russia, France, the US?

Such questions you have been asking since day one of your reviewing of CloD here. You still seem to think the answers are simple and easy. Well, they`re not. Two can play this game and so I ask you this :

Why has Jason Williams assigned Bearcat to such an aggressive reaction over at the new IL2 forums?

[furbs]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Such questions you have been asking since day one of your reviewing of CloD here. You still seem to think the answers are simple and easy. Well, they`re not. Two can play this game and so I ask you this :

Why has Jason Williams assigned Bearcat to such an aggressive reaction over at the new IL2 forums?

I dont think the moderation is aggressive at all.
Normal moderation is all i see.