the failure of clod is a failure of US ALL

[robtek]

If CoD had had the same tolerance and willingness to spend money by its fans that RoF had, the bean counters at 1c might have decided differently.
But the expectations were too high, by the fans and the bean counters, and the time frame too limited to make CoD an profitable base.
Just remember, RoF complete, at the actual christmas sale, is about 287 Dollars.
Makes one wonder what CoD could have become when the income were quadrupled, at least.
But here the majority was whining abot 30, 50 or in some cases 70 Dollars,

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by robtek

If CoD had had the same tolerance and willingness to spend money by its fans that RoF had, the bean counters at 1c might have decided differently.
But the expectations were too high, by the fans and the bean counters, and the time frame too limited to make CoD an profitable base.
Just remember, RoF complete, at the actual christmas sale, is about 287 Dollars.
Makes one wonder what CoD could have become when the income were quadrupled, at least.
But here the majority was whining abot 30, 50 or in some cases 70 Dollars,

That is a considerable price tag for ROF

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

That is a considerable price tag for ROF

Yep, and its kicking off on the RoF forum, because the new update introduced a serious soundbug online, and turning off tree's don't fix it...
Oh well, the new map only cost me $20, the Felix another $12.99, and another $20 or so on weapons mods and compasses this week. I can wait.
I'm hoping one day they will fix the FM's for some of the planes I bought but whats another year or two eh.
Can't wait for the new il2.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Yep, and its kicking off on the RoF forum, because the new update introduced a serious soundbug online, and turning off tree's don't fix it...
Oh well, the new map only cost me $20, the Felix another $12.99, and another $20 or so on weapons mods and compasses this week. I can wait.
I'm hoping one day they will fix the FM's for some of the planes I bought but whats another year or two eh.
Can't wait for the new il2.

+1 (of course, fixing fm's doesn't bring in the dollars like new planes and maps).

some people, ahem, really need to go over to the RoF forums and educate themselves even just a little bit......

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by fruitbat

+1 (of course, fixing fm's doesn't bring in the dollars like new planes and maps).

some people, ahem, really need to go over to the RoF forums and educate themselves even just a little bit......

Agreed, COD might have been a mess but at least they tried to fix things... That doesn't seem to be the case with 777.

[addman]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Agreed, COD might have been a mess but at least they tried to fix things... That doesn't seem to be the case with 777.

Yes, look how that worked out for them. I'd rather have had them spend some resources on churning out some new DLC flyables or something instead of making sure that every single, little FM whiner could go to sleep at night so that the rest of us who weren't spending whole days on these boards could get some fresh content for us to play with! PHEEEEW! It's called making money but in the sim developers world it's called SURVIVING.

[Bearcat]

Hmmmm this thread explains a lot ... Some of the drama in this thread is like a Lifetime Movie.

Originally Posted by robtek

If CoD had had the same tolerance and willingness to spend money by its fans that RoF had, the bean counters at 1c might have decided differently.
But the expectations were too high, by the fans and the bean counters, and the time frame too limited to make CoD an profitable base.
Just remember, RoF complete, at the actual christmas sale, is about 287 Dollars.
Makes one wonder what CoD could have become when the income were quadrupled, at least.
But here the majority was whining abot 30, 50 or in some cases 70 Dollars,

Do you have to buy every plane and every map and every nut and bolt and add on? How much of what you buy do you actually sepnd time flying? That should be the question asked before purchasing anything new under this business model.. To buy it just because it is there is ... something I will not do.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Do you have to buy every plane and every map and every nut and bolt and add on? How much of what you buy do you actually sepnd time flying? That should be the question asked before purchasing anything new under this business model.. To buy it just because it is there is ... something I will not do.

+1

In ROF I've bought about 8 planes plus the Channel map (Plus the initial game when it first was for sale).

The planes I've bought have only been the ones I'm interested in and no one has pressured me into buying anything I haven't wanted.

IMHO, as a business model, it's not bad because it gives us the opportunity to give a ongoing support to the developer without having to pay a monthly fee (which would out of the question for me at least - not into that sort of thing)

I have never regretted spending a single cent on any of the IL2 series (in fact I probably made the computer and gaming shop sales assistants lives hell in the weeks before the games hit thew shelves) because each and everyone of them brought massive improvements.

Hopefully this will continue in the future of the series!

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

+1

In ROF I've bought about 8 planes plus the Channel map (Plus the initial game when it first was for sale).

The planes I've bought have only been the ones I'm interested in and no one has pressured me into buying anything I haven't wanted.

IMHO, as a business model, it's not bad because it gives us the opportunity to give a ongoing support to the developer without having to pay a monthly fee (which would out of the question for me at least - not into that sort of thing)

I have never regretted spending a single cent on any of the IL2 series (in fact I probably made the computer and gaming shop sales assistants lives hell in the weeks before the games hit thew shelves) because each and everyone of them brought massive improvements.

Hopefully this will continue in the future of the series!

I think robtek's bigger point was IL-2 was dirt cheap, if had the ROF sales model they may have survived...and so I have to ask what you would not have bought in IL-2 1946

[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

I think robtek's bigger point was IL-2 was dirt cheap, if had the ROF sales model they may have survived...and so I have to ask what you would not have bought in IL-2 1946

I would not pay for planes like in 1946 as I don´t pay for planes like in RoF. But I certainly would pay for planes with the detail level of the 109 , Hurry or Spit in CoD to be flown in an amazing CoD like enviroment.