the failure of clod is a failure of US ALL

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by CWMV

You guys are that hung up on clickable cockpits eh?

Your bias is making you see things that arent there. Lofts statement is that they have a plan, they are sticking to it, and they do not have time for various and sundry useless crap like clickable pits.

Sorry, not in my book. Flying bombers or multi engined planes makes clickable pits very! important. Of course, if you stay with the I-16, then ok.

Originally Posted by CWMV

... its exactly what IL2 was and IL2 has been the sim gold standard for 10 years.

10 year old standard? Not what I want in 2014. There has to be improvement in BoS on every sim-relevant aspect over IL2. Maybe take DCS-51 as reference?

Most important features to me:

* flight model
* level of accuracy for operating the planes including engine management and radios
* dynamic weather
* believeable AI (includes ground control)
* dynamic and scripted coop/offline/online campaigns with career

We will see what 777 can deliver.

The only gripes I have with CloD (since the patch 07/2011) are:

* AI and radio comms (ruins offline play for me)
* disappearing contacts (ruins online play for me)

Very sadly Luthier concentrated their efforts in a graphic engine rewrite instead of fixing those.

[raaaid]

certainly myself i didnt talk much about the game

rather playing that complaining and use the forum to chatty chat as i would in a pub

but my point is this is a failure for us and lucky us for 777 or wwii air sim would have disappear maybe forever

what happened is bad for us all as simmers and many people are masochistically happy and were praying for this end

imagine this type of guy whith a psicology of i harm myself to harm others to feel good get access to the buttom

[GOA_Potenz]

what all you can't see that Oleg and Luthier did a totally wrong manage on the project, was their failure not us, it's all their fault, for promisng things that couldn't be achieve and then lies and silence, that's not the way to manage a project and reply to paying costumers, and the saddest is people here keep refering them as some kind of untochable allmighty and wise gods. They fail at their task horrendously and CloD is over now, end of story.
Now just keep going foward and support 777 ontheir new project, oleg and luthier are gone and they are not comming back tomorrow with a version of CloD with all the things their promised and lied about all this years of development.

[swiss]

Maybe their fatal fault was they actually DID listen to us.
Way too much time wasted for rivet counting and other peripheral stuff, while losing focus for the important stuff, i.e. supplying a working title that sells, even if the rivet counters are not happy with the historical accuracy(at release date - if it sells, you got money for later improvements).