Graphical aspect preference ROF vs COD and other stuff

[SlipBall]

It should have read beta on the box and with a much higher system requirement on there too...the amount of dx9 out there didn't help matters either.

[startrekmike]

I would like every sim to have the graphical beauty of CloD or even DCS A-10C but that is simply not a option for every company.

In terms of pure playability, I would choose ROF every time, the menu's work properly (I can actually choose options in quick battle as opposed to porting them over to the editor, altering them so that I have useful loadouts and to try and get the AI to not spiral into the channel), the framerate is very consistent at high settings and online games tend to run very stable.

I see this thread has starting going in to the realism aspect, I also notice that some seem to think that ROF is not as realistic as CloD, to me, that is a pretty silly thing to say, while ROF does not have the nice clickable cockpits, that does not mean that it does not have a superior flight and physics model (the planes in CloD feel a bit dead compared to ROF aircraft, like they are not travelling in air).

I suppose it all comes down to personal taste in the end, I love both titles but I think that ROF is not nearly as graphically inferior or as arcade as some on this forum would like us all to think.

Both are good in different ways, I tend to stick to ROF because it always works properly but I play CloD because it is the only decent WWII sim out there even if the menu problems drive me crazy.

Anyway, this thread topic is a pretty loaded question, not sure what kind of response anyone was expecting.

[Richie]

The flight models in ROF are sure not arcade. There will be a ton of IL-2 carry overs that will want Battle Of Stalingrad and it will make no sense to make a Wings Of Prey type sim right?

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Richie

The flight models in ROF are sure not arcade. There will be a ton of IL-2 carry overs that will want Battle Of Stalingrad and it will make no sense to make a Wings Of Prey type sim right?

They are not definitely not arcade, that I agree however they are not up to scratch some aircraft it seems are way too slow and have been for quite sometime even with constant threads on what needs to be corrected

[=CfC= Father Ted]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

They are not definitely not arcade, that I agree however they are not up to scratch some aircraft it seems are way too slow and have been for quite sometime even with constant threads on what needs to be corrected

In fact most of the complaints on the RoF forums are about planes that are perceived to be too fast, which only goes to show that, when it comes to FMs, we all have our own ideas. Some of those ideas seems to have some sort of fanboi bias - "Spit/190/P51 was the best fighter in the war, it should...". or even Red/Blue bias, which is more subjective than objective.

In short, I've yet to join a combat flightsim forum in which the community agree on the FMs on all planes in the game, so to single out RoF and its devs as being remiss in this department is a little disingenuous.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by =CfC= Father Ted

In fact most of the complaints on the RoF forums are about planes that are perceived to be too fast, which only goes to show that, when it comes to FMs, we all have our own ideas. Some of those ideas seems to have some sort of fanboi bias - "Spit/190/P51 was the best fighter in the war, it should...". or even Red/Blue bias, which is more subjective than objective.

In short, I've yet to join a combat flightsim forum in which the community agree on the FMs on all planes in the game, so to single out RoF and its devs as being remiss in this department is a little disingenuous.

LOL I was not saying that 777 were the only ones that cannot get the FMs just look at il2: 1946 and COD

I entirely agree that its an impossible task to make an FM that everyone agrees upon

[Wolf_Rider]

There isn't much FM difference of opinion whinging with DCS

RoF has been out (in the wild) for years and CoD hasn't... so of course the RoF is going to have less bugs, and do keep in mind RoF was extremely buggy when first released. (crikey) given the amount of time RoF is in release, it would have been nice to see how the CoD engine would have polished up, given the same opportunity)

Also... be prepared for Pay to Play (online subscription service) with BoS

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by startrekmike

I suppose it all comes down to personal taste in the end, I love both titles but I think that ROF is not nearly as graphically inferior or as arcade as some on this forum would like us all to think.

Not necessarily. Dumping clickable cockpits is one thing, saying that BoS will be closer to IL2 than CloD is another.

For example, if BoS ends up with a damage model that is merely a slight upgrade of the old IL2 DM, then it will surely be a dissapointment.

[furbs]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Not necessarily. Dumping clickable cockpits is one thing, saying that BoS will be closer to IL2 than CloD is another.

For example, if BoS ends up with a damage model that is merely a slight upgrade of the old IL2 DM, then it will surely be a dissapointment.

It all depends what else is there, i can take a slightly upgraded IL46 DM that works great, looks great, the FM's are good.

In fact if it is a upgraded IL2 i will be more than happy.

We will all have to choose, nobody is right or wrong.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by furbs

It all depends what else is there, i can take a slightly upgraded IL46 DM that works great, looks great, the FM's are good.

In fact if it is a upgraded IL2 i will be more than happy.

We will all have to choose, nobody is right or wrong.

If that was what we got in 2007 we would'nt be having this discussion and we'd probably be in The Med or back in Western Europe by now on the new engine. If it had been an upgraded IL2 with a more powerful engine capable of easily doing what the mods can do with a better DM FM CEM and a fully functional MDS and imporived graphics 2048 skuns with alphas that looked like IL2 on it's lesser settings and close to CoD on high settings and ran with frames of 20-25 on older rigs everyone would have probably been ecstatic.