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[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ParaB

It's not the "community". The problem is that a very small but vocal group of people on this forum have gone into full crusade mode the moment the news got released. Fanboys at its worst... The vast majority of the forum users seem to simply acknowledge the news and look forward to more info and hopefully a decent WW2 flightsim.

Of course it problem now that the roles have reversed, don't recall you making a post about all the rof fanboys smear campaign...

double standards...

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Of course it problem now that the roles have reversed, don't recall you making a post about all the rof fanboys smear campaign...

double standards...

Do you actually want to compare the criticism of customers who paid for a deeply flawed product with the ridiculous whining over a product that hasn't even been released?



You don't think that some people are overreacting maybe just a tiny little bit?

[Fenice_1965]

If it was a mod for IL2 it would at least have cockpit damage. ROF doesn't even have that. This is like 20 steps backwards.

I agree, but wanted to be kind.
My initial impression is that CLOD has been judged a project too complex to be developed with enough economic satisfaction.
The ROF engine at the moment is not as advanced as CLOD engine, but can do the job to give a working title in less than two years.
They seem to have reduced the target to a less ambitious goal, to avoid being involved in something that cannot be reached, or reached with too much difficulty.
I have bought a computer able to run CLOD one month ago and can say (but it's only an opinion) that with a machine capable to run it, the game is amazing in a lot of sectors.
The game anyway seems uncomplete and cannot compete with IL2 (but can with ROF...) in terms of variety of features, planes and scenarios, not to talk of the larger online community.
This is not a new scenario in Flight simulations. It remembers me the Falcon 4 saga. Falcon 4 had & has (now) features so advanced that all the simulators that came after gave up to use. I refer to the virtual battlefield which is the only or at least the more advanced real dinamic campaign ever realized for a simulator. Falcon is built around a battlefield where the plane is the latest piece. You play realtime and you have an entire geoographic area living below you, reacting to your moves and to the moves of hundreds of objects living on it. You can live a server alone 24/24 and he "plays" itself, conducts the war, even if there are no humans on it. You can join anytime and take the role of one of the planes that the server has already programmed to play the war.
Unfortunately the system was so hard to fix that at a certain moment Microprose realized that the money spent on it would never be recovered and abandoned the project.
The community developed the initial project cleaning, fixing and updating it.
At today Falcon is still alive and is still the benchmark for modern flight simulations at least in some areas (DCS product are a good competitor....), and has a strong community even if cannot compete in terms of graphics with more advanced projects.
Now what we have to hope is that 1c and 777 will sum up their competences to raise up the standards of WWII flight sims, instead of the contrary.
I do not have the technical knowledge to judge if considerations based on actual ROF engine are worthy in future perspective.
If the engine can be drastically enhanced and (even more) if programmers have the project to push up the standards of WWII flight sims, instead of searching for a compromise solution, able to give a complete product in a shorter time, our worries are not justified.
The business model seems to guarantee more money than CLOD. This can be bad because we have to spend more, and because will sure limit the production of third party addons, but can be good if they will use the more money to give us a richer product and guarantee the life of the genre.

[furbs]

ROF with SeetFX right now, the ROF engine will be added to and updated for the next sim.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ParaB

Do you actually want to compare the criticism of customers who paid for a deeply flawed product with the ridiculous whining over a product that hasn't even been released?



You don't think that some people are overreacting maybe just a tiny little bit?

Maybe a little bit, but then if the COD engine had been chosen it would be exactly the same reaction just reversed.

[foxl]

You know, posting one picture of the coastline on an unfinished map and saying rof is ancient is just ridiculous. Have you ever played the game?

Rof have so many things, amazing clouds cockpits and planes, rain and overcast weather, excellent tracers, superb draw distance, and the graphics options, you can change everything to fit your system, and on max settings in looks great, it also has functional anit-aliasing and antistrophic filtering. Great colors on the landscape as well. And the planes is realy well modeled to real life performance, something Clod have totaly missed.
And when you crash your plane it dont dissapear into a hole in the ground, the wreck stays there.

I am looking forward to see and hear more about this great project. I know we are getting the best now.

[mavers92]

Surely we just have to wait and see what developes. If 777 has the clod engine and good intentions ( like pleasing the community and making money) then they should be able to release a game we can all enjoy.
By the time it arrives we will all have better pc's (probably) and we'll be playing clod with max settings and people will wonder, like they are in another thread, what some moaned about.
BoS WILL have teething troubles and people WILL moan about them but lets not forget that some of us couldnt play il-2 '46 on our pc's on max settings in 2008 and that came out around 2006.
I think i've taken a long time to say "lets be wait and see...."